[Merlin]

How do you know if someone is doing Keto? Don't worry, they'll tell you.

They still rank as less annoying than vegans.

 

[Diablo]

i did keto for a few months. It worked . And I hated every fucking minute of it.
Reasons:
i was constantly hungry, constant cravings.
difficult to do if you eat out a lot.
Im not a natural carnivore-I get sick of meat really easily, I cant even finish an 8oz steak, and Id rather die than touch seafood.

it literally felt like a jail sentence....albeit a white collar crime one.

I was doing fine weight wise, until I got married. Adapting to someone else's eating patterns has been bad for me, as well as a move to a more sedentary lifestyle, naturally slowing metabolism due to aging, a hockey injury that prevented me from working out for a few years, and when my job had me on the road a lot, fast food was unavoidable and became addictive.

lately im trying to go back to the Lars diet (my real name....just trying to go back to how i did things before I got married)...a balance of carbs and proteins, lots of veg-I actually like veg., very little snacking, no late night binging, much less fast food, and setting aside time to work out- i was a personal trainer through uni and for a few years after.
Im taking the year off from work, my kid is a little older now, so hoping it will be easier to commit to it.
The guy I once was, has to be in there somewhere...

I just have to figure out how to find him again.

 

[RJP110]

Nope.

But you’re screen name is literally Keto

 

[RJP110]

Everyone is different. There isn’t a correct way to do things for every body. I often eat 2 or sometimes only one (or none) meals a day. That’s correct for my body. I know because I did the 6 meals a day thing when eating lots of carbs. Eat feel fine. 2 hours later hangry. Eat feel fine. Repeat. For me it’s not great for my mental or physical health. My advice is experiment with your own body (give things a solid month too) and see what works.

I was the same. I've come from the body building mentality where you need a ton of protein and eat every few hours. I was constantly Hangry and bloated. I recognize that there's no "one size fits all" for diet, but cutting out sugar and grains has made a huge impact in how I feel.

 

[RJP110]

i did keto for a few months. It worked . And I hated every fucking minute of it.
Reasons:
i was constantly hungry, constant cravings.
difficult to do if you eat out a lot.
Im not a natural carnivore-I get sick of meat really easily, I cant even finish an 8oz steak, and Id rather die than touch seafood.

it literally felt like a jail sentence....albeit a white collar crime one.

I was doing fine weight wise, until I got married. Adapting to someone else's eating patterns has been bad for me, as well as a move to a more sedentary lifestyle, naturally slowing metabolism due to aging, a hockey injury that prevented me from working out for a few years, and when my job had me on the road a lot, fast food was unavoidable and became addictive.

lately im trying to go back to the Lars diet (my real name....just trying to go back to how i did things before I got married)...a balance of carbs and proteins, lots of veg-I actually like veg., very little snacking, no late night binging, much less fast food, and setting aside time to work out- i was a personal trainer through uni and for a few years after.
Im taking the year off from work, my kid is a little older now, so hoping it will be easier to commit to it.
The guy I once was, has to be in there somewhere...
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I just have to figure out how to find him again.

Yeah, if you aren't a big meat eater it's tough. I've never really been big on pasta, bread etc. And I'm good with beef and chicken....can't tolerate seafood or pork (other than bacon!) so it's been pretty easy. My weakness has always been sweets. That's why I love keto. We even make our own ice cream with whipping cream. It's not that frequent, but I can indulge and not break ketosis.

 

[GuitarT]

I have a lot of people I work with who have done keto. Some are on it longer than others and all have had reasonable success with weight loss, maintaining a good weight. The common thing making every single one is that as soon as they stopped eating a Keto diet they all gained a pile of weight.

My wife was strict keto for a while and lost 30+ pounds. As soon as she transitioned back into a "normal" diet she started gaining it back even though she was very careful about how much she ate. I have no doubt keto works but you have to be in it for the long haul.

 

[RJP110]

On the topic of keto and the number of meals you should eat a day ie. 6-8 small, 2-3 larger etc. one benefit of ketosis is being completely in tune with when your body and mind need energy. Feel hungry and need energy- eat. Don’t feel hungry or need energy- don’t eat.

I was using ketosis as a strategy when I was fighting MMA professionally. My meals during training would always cause people to question my methods.My weigh ins were mostly at 205lbs and I’d walk around normally close to 230LBS.

6 weeks out of weigh in day I would cut my carb intake from around 30g per day to as close to zero as possible. I would have no problem dropping the 25 needed no problem and never had to sauna or cut water weight to make weight. While everyone else was on a treadmill in the sauna with plastic suits and not eating or drinking for 48 hrs. to make their last five pounds I’d often weigh in a little under 205lbs while eating all day.

A day of eating would look like this

8 eggs for breakfast with half a pound of bacon and some cheese.

6-8 Chicken thighs cooked in butter with a large Ceaser salad and string beans.

T-Bone/Rib eye after training with broccoli, butter and Ceaser salad.

Lots and lots and lots of water to stay hydrated.

Snacked on almonds, cheese, sliced meat, cottage cheese and olives.

Out of training the amount of food was way less but similar.

Yeah, it's a great way to cut water. I recently went on vacation for a week and went off keto. I gained 31lbs in 8 days! But on day 5 back in keto I was already down 27lbs. Just goes to show you how inaccurate the scale is for body composition.

 

[keto]

But you’re screen name is literally Keto

No, keto small k, always. First 2 letters of my first and last names. Has been my screen name since 1996, when, though it existed, few had ever heard of the diet. I certainly hadnt.

 

[jbealsmusic]

Just curious. My wife and I have been strict keto for 2 years and it’s had an amazing impact on the way we look (and more importantly, feel). Anyone else forgo the western diet full of grains and sugars and dive into the high fat side of life?

I did it a few times back when I cut weight for athletic purposes. But that was a long time ago, and an entirely different me. I hated it the same as I hated any other dieting method. But it worked about as well as any other dieting method I used to achieve the same results.

In general, the data is getting pretty solid on this subject. There have been many good meta-analyses and systematic reviews released in the recent decade alone, all coming to a similar conclusion. Barring some specific medical conditions, the only thing two things that matter in a successful diet regime are proper calorie management and adherence. As in, consuming less energy than you expend (adding exercise certainly helps) and choosing a style of eating that you can actually sustain long term. Long term being the key... People mistakenly treat diets as temporary changes until a goal is reached. But, if you want permanent results, you need to make permanent changes. Also, most of the ancillary health benefits of dieting occur with most dieting methods. Again, it is about long term adherence to keep those benefits long term. The fat loss and health benefits both start to go away as soon as a caloric surplus comes back, which is what happens when most people "finish" their diet.

So, if you like eating the "keto" way, and can sustain it. That's awesome man! Most people really struggle to maintain healthy eating habits long term. Should you continue, you'll no doubt continue to have great results and will continue to reap the benefits.

Yes, everyone is different, as in, everyone has different proclivities that impact their ability to adhere to the protocol long term. Their perception of how they feel on a particular diet greatly impacts their adherence. So, yes, certain diets seem to work better than others for some people. To a small degree, that's because of genetics and other factors. But, to a much larger degree, it is because they are better able to adhere to those diets long term than to other ones. To put it simply, it's REALLY hard to adhere to a diet long term if it has you eating foods you don't like at times that are radically different than your usual times, especially if they're inconvenient times for you. It's much easier if it contains foods you actually like (and can moderate your consumption of) at times that are convenient or familiar to you. External factors like partner support, etc, are also major factors on adherence, but that's another rabbit hole. I'm going to bed.

I miss doing this stuff some times... It's been a while, but I still very much enjoy the subject matter.

 

[DaddyShred]

Wife's lunch prep for the week.
Keto noodles with sausage and siracha chicken (to still be added)
Might be a pain but this stuff tastes great lol

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[RJP110]

Wife's lunch prep for the week.
Keto noodles with sausage and siracha chicken (to still be added)
Might be a pain but this stuff tastes great lol

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Which noodles?

 

[DaddyShred]

Which noodles?

I don't think anything makes them especially special, other than being gluten free.

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[RJP110]

I did it a few times back when I cut weight for athletic purposes. But that was a long time ago, and an entirely different me. I hated it the same as I hated any other dieting method. But it worked about as well as any other dieting method I used to achieve the same results.

In general, the data is getting pretty solid on this subject. There have been many good meta-analyses and systematic reviews released in the recent decade alone, all coming to a similar conclusion. Barring some specific medical conditions, the only thing two things that matter in a successful diet regime are proper calorie management and adherence. As in, consuming less energy than you expend (adding exercise certainly helps) and choosing a style of eating that you can actually sustain long term. Long term being the key... People mistakenly treat diets as temporary changes until a goal is reached. But, if you want permanent results, you need to make permanent changes. Also, most of the ancillary health benefits of dieting occur with most dieting methods. Again, it is about long term adherence to keep those benefits long term. The fat loss and health benefits both start to go away as soon as a caloric surplus comes back, which is what happens when most people "finish" their diet.

So, if you like eating the "keto" way, and can sustain it. That's awesome man! Most people really struggle to maintain healthy eating habits long term. Should you continue, you'll no doubt continue to have great results and will continue to reap the benefits.

Yes, everyone is different, as in, everyone has different proclivities that impact their ability to adhere to the protocol long term. Their perception of how they feel on a particular diet greatly impacts their adherence. So, yes, certain diets seem to work better than others for some people. To a small degree, that's because of genetics and other factors. But, to a much larger degree, it is because they are better able to adhere to those diets long term than to other ones. To put it simply, it's REALLY hard to adhere to a diet long term if it has you eating foods you don't like at times that are radically different than your usual times, especially if they're inconvenient times for you. It's much easier if it contains foods you actually like (and can moderate your consumption of) at times that are convenient or familiar to you. External factors like partner support, etc, are also major factors on adherence, but that's another rabbit hole. I'm going to bed.

I miss doing this stuff some times... It's been a while, but I still very much enjoy the subject matter.

I agree adherence is number one. And of course calories matter, but I think they matter less than what we initially thought. I weighed ALL my food pre and post keto. My total calories as well as training stayed the same. The only thing that changed was my macro quantities. I literally went from 11% body fat to 6% in 2 months. I now sit at around 8% and I eat more than previous. The hormonal changes with dietary modification is where I think the real benefits come from. For instance, if you can reduce insulin spikes, you can maximize glucagon. Low insulin and higher glucagon really does open up the door to burn fat. And this doesn’t necessarily need to be on a caloric deficit. Now you of course can do this without a ketogenic diet, but if you can adhere to a very low carb diet, you really do open the door to some very interesting hormonal changes. That being said, I think it’s a great idea to change it up and go out of ketosis periodically as well. It’s all about metabolic versatility

 

[Merlin]

I don't think anything makes them especially special, other than being gluten free.

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GF, but not keto. Tons of carbs. If you keep your portions to about 15g carb, it's not a problem for most.

 

[DaddyShred]

GF, but not keto. Tons of carbs. If you keep your portions to about 15g carb, it's not a problem for most.

Think that's what my wife is doing. Pretty sure it's a cup of pasta in each meal. Maybe a cup and a half.

You're asking keto advice from the guy who drinks Heineken and values being able to polish half a bag of Tostitos and salsa in one sitting

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[Electraglide]

Think that's what my wife is doing. Pretty sure it's a cup of pasta in each meal. Maybe a cup and a half.

You're asking keto advice from the guy who drinks Heineken and values being able to polish half a bag of Tostitos and salsa in one sitting

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Hieneken! Might as well drink soap in my opinion. Not too sure if these are on any Ketogenic diet

but take a large bag of each of these and add this

Go for it until the chocolate milk and cookies are gone.....Notice I thought healthy and chose 1%. I'm not supposed to have either but at my age, what the hell. Once in a while doesn't hurt, right. I'll have to check with my Dr. and two of the specialists about that.

I agree adherence is number one. And of course calories matter, but I think they matter less than what we initially thought. I weighed ALL my food pre and post keto. My total calories as well as training stayed the same. The only thing that changed was my macro quantities. I literally went from 11% body fat to 6% in 2 months. I now sit at around 8% and I eat more than previous. The hormonal changes with dietary modification is where I think the real benefits come from. For instance, if you can reduce insulin spikes, you can maximize glucagon. Low insulin and higher glucagon really does open up the door to burn fat. And this doesn’t necessarily need to be on a caloric deficit. Now you of course can do this without a ketogenic diet, but if you can adhere to a very low carb diet, you really do open the door to some very interesting hormonal changes. That being said, I think it’s a great idea to change it up and go out of ketosis periodically as well. It’s all about metabolic versatility

Damn, you sound like the one specialist after he told me about NAFLD. I would get a refered to a Clinical Associate Professor of Medicine Liver Unit.

 

[keithb7]

I tried Keto. It worked well and I kept the weight off for a couple years. Then I got tired of the effort required to stay lean. There are about 1 million food choices that are quick, easy and bad for you. All the other good healthy food takes hours of prep work, so the healthy food is ready to go. Quickly, when you want a fast snack. I found that I needed to prep healthy food for the upcoming week for about 2-3 hours on a Sunday afternoon. Then every morning when I headed for work, I‘d quickly grab healthy lunch to take to work.
Sure you can pay $$$ for healthier snacks that are ready to go. But they have been touched by human hands so you friggen pay thru the nose. Cheap food is processed food. Humans barely, if at all, touch it. Good healthy food costs a small fortune each week. Either you pay more $ for it, or you put your own time into into it and prep it yourself. Time is money, and it's true here too. I don't know about you but I have 50 other things I'd rather be doing than preparing or cooking food.

Keto did change my eating habits. I learned exactly what the hell my body struggles to digest. Heartburn every day? Blood sugar lows? Constipation? Hacking throat lcearing after many meals. Why? I was putting up with it all for my of my life. I was on heartburn medication. I learned, thanks to Keto that I am unable to deal with Gluten. Unfortunately I figured that out 48 years too late. All symptoms are gone now that I gave up Gluten. No more medication either. I have brought back some foods that Keto banned. I am not in Ketosis anymore. I gave it up. I packed on 6 lbs over XMAS as chocolate and candy was in every corner of the house. I think I drank a 1.75L of Rye over 3 weeks. 4 L of eggnog. Not bad, but the sugar...It adds up. I think I'll have lost the 6 lbs again here by the end of January without much effort.


Try it, Keto. Listen to your body. You may be enlightened like me. If you have other annoying health issues that you are dealing with now.

 

[Diablo]

I think it’s time our ever increasingly overweight society reevaluates things.

why do we celebrate with gluttonous eating? Thanksgiving, Xmas, birthdays, job changes etc....we have no shortage of foods, most of the time we are simply eating our favourites, not things that we don’t eat the rest of the year.
chocolate is not a rare treat anymore, it’s probably in most homes all year round.
feasts used to follow months of hard labour in the fields, or a religious fasting. We don’t live like that.
so what we get is, days or weeks of gluttony that leads to months of misery trying to get the weight back off, usually unsuccessfully. We have a culture designed to cause weight gain.

so my New Years resolution, is no more celebrsting with food. My family can buy me an ugly tie or something instead of “taking me out for my favourite dinner”. Even if I never wear it, I’ll be happier in the long run .

sorry for the rant, just had an unpleasant meeting with my bathroom scale.

fuck Xmas.

 

[jbealsmusic]

why do we celebrate with gluttonous eating

The list of things that I actually look forward to and enjoy gets shorter every year. Depression? Mid-life crisis? I dunno... Regardless, with COVID locking everything down, good tasting food in abundance is about all I have left. Bring on the stretchy pants. I'm going in!

 

[keithb7]

General obesity in the population can also be attributed to food costs. Unhealthy cheap food is abundant. As the working class wages continue to move a slower pace than the steady rise of inflation, more and more people are forced to get by with less cash. Food prices have become a major expense. Fresh lean meat, fish, poultry and vegetables are slowly becoming foods for the high income earners. Kraft Dinner, frozen pizzas, ichiban, dry cereal, canned fruit from China, soda pop, potato chips, frozen lasagna is the norm for many these days. This group of people in Canada continues to grow larger in numbers, and in waist size every year. Look at the US obesity problem. We're 1/10th the size of their population. I would not be surprised learn our percentage of population who are obese is similar. Many people cannot afford to eat as healthy as they should. Add to it the addiction to the internet, cell phones, gaming, and now covid lock down, people are not generally as active. The problem is not getting better any time soon.