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Info On American Sounding Vintage Traynors?

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#1 ·
I am completely covered for British sounds by my Orange amps, but am looking for something more American sounding for country and '50s rock.

I am considering both modern and vintage Fender Deluxe, Twin, and Super Reverbs but also want to look at vintage Traynors.

Does anyone know which of those are American sounding? I know they made the Mark V, which was basically their answer to the Twin, but what about amps like the YGM3? Those use EL84 tubes so I would assume they are British sounding, but I have seen them described as Deluxe Reverb killers. Is that accurate, or are they British sounding? What about the YGL3 Mark 3?

I would appreciate any help with which vintage Traynors are American sounding. I would also consider modern Traynors but I think the YCV amps are pretty much their answer to modern Fenders like the Hot Rod series, and I am not as interested in those (or should I be?).
 
#2 ·
The Mark 3 is the one that's sometimes called a Twin on steroids. I owned one for years. It does a nice clean with plenty of headroom, but you can dial in some grit if you need it.

The YRM-1 is the smaller version. Only one channel, but it has the reverb and tremolo. I owned this one as well and it's just as nice as the Mark 3.

The YGM3 I never liked as much. It lacks the headroom and I didn't like how the power tube breakup sounded. Definitely didn't give me any Deluxe Reverb vibes.
 
#3 ·
Yeah most Traynors are more British voiced.

For more of Fender vibe out of a Canadian classic amp check out Garnets; they made amps based on 6V6, 6L6 and 6CA7 (sometimes subbed with EL34s, but it's just a bias adjustment to go back; later ones came stock with Japanese "6CA7/EL34"s that look morelike EL34s, but proper vintage Sylvania 6CA7 fat bottle power tubes really make those amps sing) in both head and combo versions (6v6 heads are a bit rare - more combos). Some of them are heavily influenced by specific Fender designs (I'd say copies but there werealways 'improvements' especially around the power supply) and the reverb (if applicable) was rarely the same (but always good).
 
#4 ·
What about the YGL3 Mark 3
A good design, IMO. It's rated 80WRMS, shared by 4Ă—EL34s that aren't sweating like a Marshall. You can increase the headroom by adding a piggy-back onto the high-tension winding of the power transformer or completely change it out. The reverb driver uses a pentode which is more suited to driving a reverb tank. The question is do you want a high-powered amp?
 
#6 ·
I've owned Twin Reverbs in the past so am used to how loud they are. And my Oranges may only be 30 watters, but they are insanely loud for 30 watts.

I would be fine with a lower wattage amp, like a Deluxe for example, so long as it sounded big as I am thoroughly sold on the 2x12 format. I would go 1x12, but my preference is for 2x12 which often means higher wattage.
 
#8 ·
That's a good deal for that gear. You could operate it at half-power (40W), by removing 2 output tubes (V7 and V9) and operate with 8Ω load. I did it with my V5 and the output TFM barely gets warm. Those Mark IIIs operate conservatively too so, the output tubes will last long, if you keep it biased properly.

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#9 ·
That's a good deal on that amp.

I have an extra one I could let go as well for that price (mine is 1973-5, original but perfect working condition, I think earlier than the one on FB), not sure where you are located, I'm in Mississauga, PM me if interested.

But if that one is closer and you like it, go for it. Well worth the price.

Good luck.

I also agree: they can really sing with speaker choice. I like the Jensen licensed spkrs (which these generally have, as that was a premium options for this top of the line amp.)...but not the Marsland ones.

This amp sounds incredible with Celi Blues (but you need 4 or them...and they are a little dicey with wattage maximum, but they sound great.)...I never run this amp full though. Just good bones, but lots of tubes to change...lol