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The wireless card in my Thinkpad died so I have to send it in to be replaced (it is under warranty so no big deal). But I need a computer for work so cannot be without one while the laptop is out for repair. My desktop is about ten years old and the hard drive is failing so I don't trust it. Instead of replacing the HD on such an old machine I decided to buy a new one.

I found one with good specs at a good price so ordered it two weeks ago. The retailer's website said it was in stock and would ship within 24 hours. Well that turned out to be bull so I cancelled the order and ordered it from another retailer. I placed that order just before 4pm Friday and the computer arrived before 1pm today.

Now I am trying to install Window$ 7 because I cannot stand Window$ 8, which is what it came with. You would think it would be easy but hell no! Unlike other versions of Windows this one is so screwed up you cannot simply insert your disc and do an install. After farting around in the BIOS I think things are working now but I'm not sure as I have been stuck on the 'Starting Window$' screen for several minutes now.

What a complete and utter pain in the ass. But if it isn't installing properly I think I have made the proper changes and will be able to start again and get it to work. Or maybe not........................
 

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i like windows 7 & 8. i have had no problems at all with either one. a bit of a learning curve though, because i went from xp to 7 then immediately to 8.
 

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Think so? Wait'll you try 10 !
8 was so crappy, they soon released 8.1 (or was it 8.5, - whatever...)
Actually, 7 was the last good one.

Mine is actually 8.1.

It has been sitting at the Starting Windows screen for an hour so I am going to call Micro$oft to figure out what the hell is going wrong.
 

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How old is the Thinkpad? My daughter's 8+ year old Sony was so infested with malware I took to a computer nerd shop and they scrubbed it and installed Windows 10, but not without having to do back door tricks to get in on. Yeah Win 8 was an oddball, but the problem may not actually be be the operating system, but the hardware compatibility. Win 7 may work fine, but that is in part due to compatibility with the hardware. The old Sony works fine with Win 10 by the way.
 

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I'd get a Mac if someone would buy it for me.
I started out personal computing before Macs, Windows, even before DOS. I used Mac notebooks supplied by my employer for maybe ten years, but at home, my own were always Windows machines - to this day. Windows always came with issues, the most publicized has always been security - its been the target of hacks mostly owing to it being the most commonly used system in the world. So, I was most comfortable with what was most familiar to me, rather than switch sides. Macs have always been a turnoff because of their philosophy : "You don't need to know" where files are, what and where drivers are, etc.
Windows, under the tradition of its parent, DOS, always let me 'get under the hood' and hack, if I wanted to.
 

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How old is the Thinkpad? My daughter's 8+ year old Sony was so infested with malware I took to a computer nerd shop and they scrubbed it and installed Windows 10, but not without having to do back door tricks to get in on. Yeah Win 8 was an oddball, but the problem may not actually be be the operating system, but the hardware compatibility. Win 7 may work fine, but that is in part due to compatibility with the hardware. The old Sony works fine with Win 10 by the way.

The Thinkpad is fine. The wireless card died but that is no big deal as it is still under warranty. This issue is with a new desktop that I purchased. It came with Window$ 8.1 and I am trying to downgrade.
 

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I find 10 to be much easier to get along with than 8.

I started wondering if there might be a problem with my disc so I bought 7 again (as a prof I get academic pricing so it only cost me $15), downloaded it, and have burned the ISO file to a disc. I am about to try the downgrade with this new version of 7.
 

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I replaced my Windows 7 PC's with the free upgrade to Windows 10 when it first came out. It works fine with my DAW on my desktop and also on my notebook so I can't see why people don't like it.
 
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I got my brother's computer (win10). I don't like it.
I prefer the 7 that I'm on right now. I still use my old Vista from time to time, which I also prefer.
 

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I went from win 7 to win 10. I have not had any problems with it.
 

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Windows just keeps one-upping themselves. I've heard they are going to drop the numbering and just call the next OS version 'FU!'. ;)
They're dropping support for Vista soon and it may be hard to even find a 7 machine; if so they're still probably full of crapware that takes hours to get rid of. I'm getting tired of the whole routine and have no interest or need for an OS designed for touchscreen devices.
So for me it may come down to buying a new machine, scrubbing everything, and making friends with the Penguin (linux).
 

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I replaced my Windows 7 PC's with the free upgrade to Windows 10 when it first came out. It works fine with my DAW on my desktop and also on my notebook so I can't see why people don't like it.

The forced updates and the intrusiveness are the main issues that many people have.
 

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Windows just keeps one-upping themselves. I've heard they are going to drop the numbering and just call the next OS version 'FU!'. ;)
They're dropping support for Vista soon and it may be hard to even find a 7 machine; if so they're still probably full of crapware that takes hours to get rid of. I'm getting tired of the whole routine and have no interest or need for an OS designed for touchscreen devices.
So for me it may come down to buying a new machine, scrubbing everything, and making friends with the Penguin (linux).

If I was more tech savvy I would seriously consider Linux as well.
 
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