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I have no idea what it is but i guess when your a lead singer you have to have all the attention all the time... not just on stage but freaking everywhere like what the hell... now this just might be the lead singer in my band i donno but it seems like every gig he is trying to upstage me during my solos i like to be up at the front of the stage maybe put my foot up on the pa or something and just let it rip but it always seems like he is up in my way in front of me just really ticks me off :mad: :mad:
 

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Sorry to say your singer has been struck by LSD..... lead singer disease, terrible disorder, some of them just can't help it. Seek medical attention immediately or get a guitar with more points as suggested...:smilie_flagge17:
 

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"The world goes as it will..."

Yup! LSD is very common, but lets face it. It takes a different kind of person to get up in front of a crowd, sing and try promote some crowd reaction. I know I can't do it!
The first band I ever worked for hired an extra guitarist to be the main vocalist/front man at the same time as me. After only one gig the other guys hated him, especially the original guitarist. Me also being "new", we were lumped together to share rooms.

I found the new front man to be a great guy and 35 years later he's still one of my closest friends. At the time I spent a lot of thought over why he was disliked (but they wouldn't fire him!) and came to some conclusions that might be similar in your case.

The new guitarist I'll call Irish and the original I'll call Kevin. Kevin was at the time a far better guitarist than Irish but when the band was on stage few noticed. All eyes were on Irish.

He was just exactly what he was hired to be - a great front man! He reacted to the crowd. He used a 50 ft cord and did solos from on top of tables. (this was the early 70's and very uncommon. Besides, clubs were bigger then) He smiled at the girls and grinned at the guys. He dressed in obvious stage clothes and changed outfits every set. The crowd loved him! All the cheers were for Irish and nobody really noticed Kevin.

As I said, Kevin was by far the better player. The other guys weren't slouches either. The problem was that none of them made any effort to the appearance of the band. The "showmanship", if you like. They went up in blue jeans and old T-shirts. Kevin stood there like a tree trunk planted on the stage, thinking that his amazing fingers should be enough!

What they didn't understand is that they weren't playing for other musicians. Ordinary folks don't have the background to appreciate deep guitar technique by itself. They were there to drink, dance and pick each other up. They were not there to write a review for "Guitar Player".

Irish gave them a great show! They had a helluva good time! They drank lots of beer and made the club owner very happy.

Not surprisingly, in the next few years the other guys dropped out of the scene to become posties or accountants or whatever. No shame in that of course. However, Irish formed his own cover band and kept playing for the next 20 years, until the changing economics made it no longer worthwhile. There are still club owners in the area who would give him a gig tomorrow if he called them up. In that scene, Kevin and the others are long forgotten.

It's natural as a performer to want some recognition but if you're going to play for a regular audience you just have to accept that a good front man/vocalist will get the lion's share. What the rest of the band contributes is more subliminal. If you're all better players the crowd will like your band more but don't expect them to know why. As I said, they don't have the background to appreciate that you're better musicians.

JMHO

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Probably one of the reasons we all share the duty, three of us.. all players, sing. Makes for great harmonies too. Plus it makes the pay a little better at the end of the night with that one less person!!
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There must be a web site on how to deal with unfortunate but severe disorder. If nothing works in the end, Just tell him to keep out of your f%&@#g face when it's your time to solo. Assuming what Wild Bill says doesn't apply.
 

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Seems like every band I've been in, the lead singer(s) haven't even owned their own mic/cord/stand/effects. What's that all about?

Peace, Mooh.
 

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I think I've said this before; If you want a good front man/woman, you had better expect them to be a premadona gloryhound type as they all are.

I have very rarely met a good front person that was mild mannered, considerate or sane. They can only pretend to be human for so long before their true personalities rise to the surface.

Their condition is what makes them interesting to watch.
 
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Some people have stage presence, some people don't.... When given a choice, the audience will always follow the person who has it, no matter what the person who doesn't is doing.

Maybe you shouldn't be so easily upstaged...


"i like to be up at the front of the stage maybe put my foot up on the pa or something"
Talk about boring...
 

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...i finally gave up on singers and decided if i want the job done right i need to do it myself. its worked out great, in spite of the fact that i have the worst singing voice in the world, because:

1. i always show up, enthusiastic and ready to sing for hours at a time without whining.

2. i don't mind rehearsing the night before a show - in fact, i insist on it.

3. i also play guitar, AND lug heavy equipment around.

4. i don't feel the need to babble incessantly between songs

5. i sing the songs exactly the way the writer (me...coincidentally) envisioned them, without whining...

6. i am actually growing, learning and improving as a vocalist

7. i take it seriously...

8. i keep an open mind!

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How lucky is our band? Our singer is a great singer and I have no problem saying that he makes the band for us! To top it off, he helps unload, setup and load up all the equipment!

All round great guy!

He's not fond of practices though.
 
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" He's not fond of practices though."
Can't say I blame him... at the end of the day rehearsals cut into the per/hour rate the band is earning... But if you wanna not suck they've gotta happen sometime.
 

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" He's not fond of practices though."
Can't say I blame him... at the end of the day rehearsals cut into the per/hour rate the band is earning... But if you wanna not suck they've gotta happen sometime.
...rehearsals are the ultimate deal-breaker for me. i will never again work with a musician is not as addicted to long rehearsals as i am. i have found a bassist and a drummer who are as "possessed" as i am, and there is no going back.

that said, i don't see much point in rehearsing if all you're playing is covers.

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Our lead singer is autocratic, somewhat overbearing, and a spotlight hog.


Aren't they all?


(oh, and he's nothing to look at either)

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...rehearsals are the ultimate deal-breaker for me. i will never again work with a musician is not as addicted to long rehearsals as i am. i have found a bassist and a drummer who are as "possessed" as i am, and there is no going back.

that said, i don't see much point in rehearsing if all you're playing is covers.

-dh


Wow.

I really don't se much point in rehearsing if all you're doing is originals. (who's to tell you if you're playing them wrong?)
 

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david henman;51714 that said said:
DH,,thats a pretty ignorant thing to say!! I'm surprised coming from you!! It doesn't matter what type of music your doing. To deliver it with conviction, and polish, requires rehearsal.
We don't do 'origional' songs, but we do covers like they are ours. And we kick ass doing it.

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"I really don't see much point in rehearsing if all you're doing is originals"
98% of originals aren't helped by rehearsal..... no matter how long.


My fav answer to rehearsals is to book a lame Sunday or Tuesday gig, and use that for rehearsal.
 
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