Hi JR (JRoberts),jroberts said:It's the way its worked for decades. Bars have to pay fees to perfoming right societies like ASCAP for permission to publicly perfom music of the artists that are members of that society. It's how composers get paid. It works the same for canned music. If this bar just paid the licensing fee, it wouldn't be an issue. I guess they wanted to save a few bucks. I don't have a lot of sympathy for them.
Here Hear! Unfortunately, this is precisely the action of many societies who claim to be acting in the interests of their members, or worse, "society at large". It's a bunch of legal smokescreening which benefits nobody except some lawyer burning to flex his muscle. The one that occupies the space usually reserved for brains.Hamm Guitars said:The act of punishing a club for paying a band for a performance is both counter-intuative and counter productive. In this case, there is no evidence that the original artists suffered any type of financial loss at all. Any Music Industry Society that would choose to punish a consumer and supporter of the Music Buisiness does not have the societies best interest at heart and should re-examine the pricipals on which it was founded (i.e. to protect the music industry and those who are part of it).
The copyright protects the tangible product and the artists right to profit from it. The artists tour in support of the product would fall into this category, and any public playing of the product (i.e. songs played directly from the recoring) would also fall into this category.jroberts said:So, copyright in the songs you have written should be lost as soon as you stop touring? :confused-smiley-010
It seems inuitive to me. If a couple of clubs who don't pay their license fees are sued, maybe more clubs will pay their license fees.
I'm saying that is the way that it should be. Obviously it's not the way it is or the club in question wouldn't be facing the problems that they are.jroberts said:I'm not sure if you're saying that's the way it is or that's the way it should be. If you're saying the former, you're very wrong in your understanding of how copyright works.