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Why is it that smooth jazz never gets a mention in the forum?

I started a thread on this topic many years ago and everyone seemed to go "EWWWWWW...YUK"

Is it really that distasteful or are there folks in the forum that just won't admit to listening to this underground music?
 

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I am a big fan of the late Jeff Golub. His playing is always tasteful and melodic.
Ironic you should mention Jeff Golub. I have had one of his CD's for years and always enjoyed it. Shame that he passed away at such a young age (59). A lot of sadness in his last few years.

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In 2011, Golub started to lose his eyesight due to a collapsed optic nerve. In September 2012, he fell on the tracks of a subway but was saved by people nearby. He was taken to the hospital with minor injuries.[2][4][5][6] Soon after, he released the album The Train Keeps A-Rollin' with keyboardist Brian Auger.[2]

In 2014, he was diagnosed with a rare brain disease, progressive supranuclear palsy, and in 2015 he died from the disease at the age of 59.[2][5][7]
 

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I think the jazz.fm station in Toronto plays smooth jazz a reasonable amount. I used to try and listen to that station fairly frequently over the wintertime, so I know I heard some :p.

I don't mind it, but I don't go looking for it.
 

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Over the years, jazz made a conscious effort to liberate itself from the strictures of classic melody, harmony, and song structure. That's not wrong, but it requires concentration to enjoy, and in any event is only enjoyable in moderate doses. Swinging the pendulum the complete other way, jazz has always been conscious of melody, but melody in the absence of trajectory and a sense of movement and dynamics, can get boring pretty quick too.

Creed Taylor's CTI label always cornered the market on melodic-but-interesting jazz., while Manfred Eicher's ECM label took the other corner of melodic-but-exploratory jazz, and content that covered the overlap between jazz and "new music". Both labels released plenty of music that could be enjoyed without having to pay close attention, which sort of makes them contenders for "smooth jazz".

My sense is that any general antipathy towards smooth jazz is really antipathy towards Kenny G. Is Pat Metheny or Bill Frisell "smooth jazz"? If they are thinking about melodic structure, and not simply going through the moves, then I would say no.
 

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I am more of a classic old time jazz listener but not into all smooth jazz tunes. Some of them are very good. Question of taste i guess.
 

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Not sure what "Smooth Jazz" is, but the spotify playlist "Coffeetable Jazz" gets a decent amount of play at our house. Great way to wind down the evening. I could listen to a decent brass or woodwind lead over soft piano any time I want to wind my brain down after a rough day.
 

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Antonio Carlos Jobim. Genius.

Jerry Murad and his Harmonicats. Love it.

George Benson. Saw him at the Village Vanguard playing toons from The Other Side of Abbey Road.

Al DiMeola. I own & study his book: Scales, Chords, and Arpeggios

"People couldn't recognize good music if it bit them on the ass." -- Frank Zappa

I also like a lot of "soft rock". Whatever that is...
 

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@Xelebes Thanks very much for posting this! I thoroughly enjoyed it. I would not call it "smooth jazz" personally, but it is excellent jazz, IMO.

Here is one for you in return...

I found this while researching E.S.T....So sad!!

Esbjörn Svensson (16 April 1964 – 14 June 2008) was a Swedish jazz pianist and founder of the jazz group Esbjörn Svensson Trio, commonly known as E.S.T. Svensson became one of Europe's most successful jazz musicians at the turn of the 21st century before dying, at the age of 44, in a scuba diving accident.
 

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Hmmmmmmm,....NO.
 

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Smooth Jazz, be honest, do I like it? .................... NO. Don't hate it, just don't like it.
 

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"smooth jazz" annoys me, just like elevator music does

I do like "non-smooth jazz" though, quite a lot. Even though I can't play it to save my life

I forgive George Benson for being an official "smooth jazz" endorser, complete with the "smooth jazz" cruise ship thing,.... yuck.....just because he is such a monster player and I like a lot of his older stuff.
 

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I listen to lots of jazz. Anything from Thelonius Monk to John Coltrane, Lionel Hampton, Oscar Peterson.... List goes on
 
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