[Okay Player]

Anyone who visits this site, member or not, can read anything. They can't reply to a thread or start a conversation without joining. There are restrictions on posting in the for sale section but not anywhere else, also not on contacting other members

Scammers want soft targets. Locking out non-approved members who require approval makes it more work that its worth to target people here.

I'm a member of another site that was having issues with fraud. They implemented a handful of measures and the problem was resolved. We aren't the first site to have this issue.

 

[davetcan]

Scammers want soft targets. Locking out non-approved members who require approval makes it more work that its worth to target people here.

I'm a member of another site that was having issues with fraud. They implemented a handful of measures and the problem was resolved. We aren't the first site to have this issue.

What were the measures?

 

[Okay Player]

What were the measures?

Off the top of my head. Classifieds are only viewable by approved members. Members have to ask permission to gain access to the classifieds.

An easy to use feedback system that's attached to the user also drastically reduces attempts at fraud because you know you're only going to get to screw one person before it's public knowledge. From what I understand we used to have that here but it was taken away at some point in favour of the rarely used "Feedback subforum".

 

[davetcan]

Off the top of my head. Classifieds are only viewable by approved members. Members have to ask permission to gain access to the classifieds.

An easy to use feedback system that's attached to the user also drastically reduces attempts at fraud because you know you're only going to get to screw one person before it's public knowledge. From what I understand we used to have that here but it was taken away at some point in favour of the rarely used "Feedback subforum".

I've given up asking for our old feedback system to be implemented. it shouldn't be difficult, TGP rolled it out immediately when they upgraded to this software. As for permission to view classifieds VS would need to grant the mods more permissions to be able to do that. Right now we can't.

 

[Okay Player]

I've given up asking for our old feedback system to be implemented. it shouldn't be difficult, TGP rolled it out immediately when they upgraded to this software. As for permission to view classifieds VS would need to grant the mods more permissions to be able to do that. Right now we can't.

Then we're likely looking at more of this.

 

[davetcan]

Then we're likely looking at more of this.

Yep, we have to rely upon members reporting anything resembling a scam or spam before we can act. We have paid membership or minimum post counts in place to control posting in the For Sale Forums but nothing that actually prevents reading. Having said that a couple of the recently banned scammers actually paid for premium membership to avoid wait times.

 

[Chito]

Yep, we have to rely upon members reporting anything resembling a scam or spam before we can act. We have paid membership or minimum post counts in place to control posting in the For Sale Forums but nothing that actually prevents reading. Having said that a couple of the recently banned scammers actually paid for premium membership to avoid wait times.

So if I understand it right, the premium membership is now or should I say, is now required again in order to post in the For Sale forum?

 

[davetcan]

So if I understand it right, the premium membership is now or should I say, is now required again in order to post in the For Sale forum?

Nope, it's either/or. 25 posts or paid membership.

 

[Okay Player]

Yep, we have to rely upon members reporting anything resembling a scam or spam before we can act. We have paid membership or minimum post counts in place to control posting in the For Sale Forums but nothing that actually prevents reading. Having said that a couple of the recently banned scammers actually paid for premium membership to avoid wait times.

I pointed out some time ago that paying isn't a deterrent. Because the fraud value is so much higher than the cost.

 

[Chito]

Nope, it's either/or. 25 posts or paid membership.

Okay, so that requirement to have paid membership was put back in, but you don't have to do it if your post count is more than 25.

 

[davetcan]

Okay, so that requirement to have paid membership was put back in, but you don't have to do it if your post count is more than 25.

Yes. You're a lifetime premium member anyway so you'll never have to pay.

 

[Nork]

Mmk7

same here. last week, wanting to sell me some Veteran 10's. We txtd back and forth, but he stopped answering questions when I wanted to know ore info and then I looked a bit deeper. Glad I decided to not.

@davetcan I have mmk7's phone number. Is that helpful in tracking him down at all?

 

[BMW-KTM]

Wouldn't buying local and in person solve a lot of these problems?
I have sold gear over distance but only because the buyer initiated contact with me and asked me to.
One of those sales was on this site and the others were on KiJiJi.
I posted a guitar on here and clearly stated central Alberta buyers preferred and a guy from PEI wanted it so I agreed to the deal but I always try to sell locally if I can.
I have purchased gear from reputable online retailers with a return policy but I would never buy from an individual at a distance.
Not being able to hold the item in my hands and check it over is an absolute deal breaker; no exceptions.
It simply would never happen; I would never risk it.
There are just too many ways to get burned.

I fully agree with @crann; caveat emptor.

 

[Voxguy76]

FYI - I was messaged by this member (terryeric470) who joined the forum 30 min ago about a W
TB ad. Given his message I'd say it's safe to say this is a scam. Just fair warning and PSA.

 

[davetcan]

FYI - I was messaged by this member (terryeric470) who joined the forum 30 min ago about a W
TB ad. Given his message I'd say it's safe to say this is a scam. Just fair warning and PSA.

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@terminalvertigo , @fogdart , @jayoldschool

 

[fogdart]

FYI - I was messaged by this member (terryeric470) who joined the forum 30 min ago about a W
TB ad. Given his message I'd say it's safe to say this is a scam. Just fair warning and PSA.

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Thanks for letting us know. For quickest action in the future, please PM the mods. That way we are sure to see it quickly.

 

[greco]

Thanks for letting us know. For quickest action in the future, please PM the mods. That way we are sure to see it quickly.

Is reporting it also a reasonable approach for a "quick action"?

 

[fogdart]

Is reporting it also a reasonable approach for a "quick action"?

Absolutely, but a PM will yield the quickest result. I get an email alert when I’ve got a PM on the forum. We don’t get an email alert for reports - we only see them when we log on. A scammer can rip off a number of members in under an hour.

 

[greco]

....a PM will yield the quickest result.

Thanks...Good to know.

 

[laristotle]

We don’t get an email alert for reports - we only see them when we log on. A scammer can rip off a number of members in under an hour.

Maybe ask the programmers to enable email notification for that?