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Like everyone else scoffed at Gibson’s Robo tuners. But reading about the GForce tuner and its library of tunings, I think it’s kind of cool for switching between alternate tunings. Sure it looks stupid on a classic guitar, but what do I care.

That being said, does anyone know if one of these tuners fit epiphone casinos, dots etc.

Crazy idea...I want a guitar that has not only robo tuners but a robo bridge and truss rod so that you can have preset settings to go between slide and slinky setups. (I like higher action for slide)

Hell, if we’re going to go that far, may as well make the pickup height work in conjunction with bridge changes.

Or even a USB plug in so you can make tweaks by your pc instead of buying and messing around with gauges etc. Have saved “factory” or suggested settings

Ok, a bit much but it would be cool
 

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Misread the OP. oops.

EDIT: I guess my original post stands. I had mentioned that I tried a 2015 LP with those and I just didn't like them. They didn't seem to tune up the guitar properly. And after 30 years of tuning the guitar either by ear or otherwise, I can't see myself changing the way I prefer to do it.
 

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Not keen on them but I think you can get the guitar tuned right and then compensate the tuners to do it that way all the time - at least so I’ve been told.

I also tried a 2015 LP and found that they did not tune properly. I thought it would be nice to have a guitar that I could drop to e flat real quick and not need to take a second guitar but I gave up on that after messing with the 2015.
 

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I’m not sure about the execution, but in principal, I love the idea of a self / automatic tuning guitar. Yes, I have no problem tuning by ear, and clip on, pedal or whatever type of tuner you may have will work fine if used properly.

But, I’d be delighted to be able to pick up a guitar and be virtually guaranteed that it would be in tune.

And yes, with proper care and maintenance, tuning problems can be dramatically reduced, some would say eliminated.

But, there are few sounds that make me cringe more than a band or even a single with an out of tune instrument (of any type).

To have that taken out of the equation is a very appealing idea to me. After all, it should be about playing them once in awhile.
 
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I love my robo tuners. I have the latest version on my main player, an SG. I also put them on my strat, 335 and 137.

I have become used to my guitar always being in tune, thanks to robot tuners. When I go to tune I quickly turn the volume off, click the button, strum the strings once, 5 seconds later I mute then re-strum. All the lights turn green and when in tune the tuner shuts off. Done.

Sometimes it is not so smooth, they tune and tune. Other times it says it is in tune and it is not. But not often, and it is an easy fix, just quickly tune again.

I play all the time in E flat. I also created a custom tuning of open G flat. I use drop D, regular E, and mess around with some other tunings. I also put Stetsbar trems on the 3 Gibsons I mentioned, so they do go out of tune a bit more than a stop tail.

The programming in the tuners is supposed to learn from the guitar they are on and get better and better as they are used.
 
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Another benefit of the robot tuners is changing strings. Built in auto winder, and once they are close to the string tuning the tuner takes over and I can stop pressing the "up" button and the motorized tuner does the rest. They only require 1/2 a winding around the tuner post so they are fast to install strings and are good for trems with so little winding required.
 
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Note: The robo tuners can also be used manually. With 3 + 3 tuners (Gibson type) the low side tuners turns are reversed. So when you turn them manually to tighten the string you have to turn them backwards to a conventional tuner.

Until I save a custom tuning for drop open D (open D flat) I manually tune the low e string to D flat and then use the robot tuner to tune the other 5 strings individually.
 

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As a group, guitarists are surprisingly resistant to technology.

I love history. When I visit foreign countries, I don’t go to casinos or Disneyland. I go to cathedrals, museums, natural land marks, pyramids et cetera, so I get the connection with our past.

I really DON’T get why guitarists cling to the old ways so strongly.

The opposition to ideas like robo tuners and the prevelance of glass tubes in bars and concert halls is testimony to this.
 

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I love my robo tuners. I have the latest version on my main player, an SG. I also put them on my strat, 335 and 137.

I have become used to my guitar always being in tune, thanks to robot tuners. When I go to tune I quickly turn the volume off, click the button, strum the strings once, 5 seconds later I mute then re-strum. All the lights turn green and when in tune the tuner shuts off. Done.

Sometimes it is not so smooth, they tune and tune. Other times it says it is in tune and it is not. But not often, and it is an easy fix, just quickly tune again.

I play all the time in E flat. I also created a custom tuning of open G flat. I use drop D, regular E, and mess around with some other tunings. I also put Stetsbar trems on the 3 Gibsons I mentioned, so they do go out of tune a bit more than a stop tail.

The programming in the tuners is supposed to learn from the guitar they are on and get better and better as they are used.
SGs are pretty well known to be neck divers. How badly does the added weight on the peghead impact that characteristic?
 

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I have a '15 Junior that I swapped the robot tuners out on.

Every once in a while I think about swapping them in again ...
... then I come back to my senses.

I actually really like the concept of the robot tuners.
However, my biggest issue with them is that they often hunted for proper tuning and not finding it.
 
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SGs are pretty well known to be neck divers. How badly does the added weight on the peghead impact that characteristic?
The whole unit weighs less than a set of tuners, so it has no effect on neck diving the way you are asking.
 
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I have a '15 Junior that I swapped the robot tuners out on.

Every once in a while I think about swapping them in again ...
... then I come back to my senses.

I actually really like the concept of the robot tuners.
However, my biggest issue with them is that they often hunted for proper tuning and not finding it.
There are settings to help with that.
 

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I’m not sure about the execution, but in principal, I love the idea of a self / automatic tuning guitar. Yes, I have no problem tuning by ear, and clip on, pedal or whatever type of tuner you may have will work fine if used properly.

But, I’d be delighted to be able to pick up a guitar and be virtually guaranteed that it would be in tune.

And yes, with proper care and maintenance, tuning problems can be dramatically reduced, some would say eliminated.

But, there are few sounds that make me cringe more than a band or even a single with an out of tune instrument (of any type).

To have that taken out of the equation is a very appealing idea to me. After all, it should be about playing them once in awhile.
So you want an evertune bridge.
 

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Yup, looks good, if a bit "intrusive". A Strat would be a good test platform.

I like the way it works.

Ive played some shows with users, and a friend tech'd for a high level touring band and remarked how well they work.

I tune every chance I get onstage, but I cant jump into that just yet haha.
 
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I love the concept, but they need to be less prone to failure. I've had them crap out on me after maybe a dozen or so tunings, where it just makes the noise but won't turn the keys.
You may have turned the keys manually when the unit was on. This will result in stripped gears.

Or tightened the string tightening nut too hard or again when the unit was on.
 
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