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Benee Wafers said:
Would anyone buy an Epi when presented with the opportunity of buying the real thing? Of those 3 guitars on sale I am presuming ya'll would go for the real Gibson SG before either of those Epi's.........or am I mistaken?
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Actually, you may be mistaken. I am going to check out the Epi 61 SG on Saturday. I've been searching for an SG over the last year but never found one that was finished and set to my standards. The finish and set up on a Gibson name guitar is seriously lackiing quality for the price you are paying these days?

While looking at the Gibsons, I have also been checking out the Epiphone guitars, which are finished far superior to Gibson! I put a call in to 12th Fret. They can't get rid of the Epiphone Elitist SG because you can get a Gibson Standard for only $300.00 more even though they feel it is a better guitar!

Marketing and shear stubborness of us dumb ass guitarist are the reason we pay excessively more for the Gibson name on the headstock.

I'm struggling to get past the Epiphone name as well. The name just doesn't look as good as Gibson. The resale value of a Gibson is far greater ...... but I play a guitar for my enjoyment, not to sell it and make money?

If its still there on Saturday and I like it, I'm gonna buy it! A guitar is only good if you personally like it!

Just in case somebody throws in the, " They are made in Japan or Korea argument," well I noticed some pretty nice cars you guys have over here that are made oversea's! Why?

Because they are better!
 

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Benee Wafers said:
So in fact you are saying that Epiphone makes a better Guitar than Gibson at a third of the price.
You're saying that Epi offers better build quality than Gibson.
Are you also gonna say that an Epi SG sounds equal to or better than a Gibson SG?
Not arguing, just curious as on this forum I often notice people talking about their Epi imitations or going to buy an Epi and always wonder why and conclude that they don't want to spend the money on the real thing.
Is that the wrong conclusion?
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I would not say Epiphone Elitist's are better. I would say they are as good, but have a much better paint job. With the Elitist series by Epihone, all the parts are made in the USA and assembled in Japan/Korea.

The standard Epiphone guitars cannot be compared to Gibson though. They are made from composite woods with veneer tops. The electronics and hardwares are cheap. They are good for starters.

I would say the Elitist series are proffesional quality guitars. Like I said, I'm going to check it out Saturday. They have a real Gibson 61 that I will test drive as well. I'm willing to pay the price for the Gibson if I find its a better guitar. If I can't feel or hear any difference between the two, I'll have to see if I can get my head around the Epiphone name on the headstock. That will be the tough part, especially if the Epiphone is better!
 

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Well, I went down and tested the Gibson against the Epi Elitist! I tested both out an a THD Flexi50 and another amp that started with a K? Tone wise I really could not hear a difference. Both guitars sounded awesome. I am curious as to how a thin guitar like the SG gets so much sustain? The overall feel of both guitars was great, but the Epi had lower action which was to my liking. The tuners on the Epi seemed smoother, (same Grovers as my V). Intonation on both guitars was excellent!

Where the Gibson just could not compete was the finish of the guitar. The finish on the Epi was spectacular! The paint job was perfect, the wood grain was more consistant and the rosewood fretboard was just plain nicer. So guess what..........I bought the Epi!
Yeah, I got by the name on the headstock, but at least the truss rod cover plate is engraved Gibson instead of SG which is cool. For $1000.00 cheaper, I really feel the Epi was a better guitar then the Gibson. I've been playing it for the last 2 hours and of course at the moment its my favorite guitar!

Thanks for posting this sale Rollingdam!
 

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This Elitist SG is now the lowest priced instrument I have bought since highschool, which was about 25 years ago. Its sounds and feels like a $2000.00 guitar! I have never been a big fan of Les Pauls! (please don't hurt me).

I may just consider an Epiphone Elitist Les Paul in the future now that I know the quality is proffesional and the price is right!

I went to the Toronto Music Expo this weekend and the Ernie Ball booth was great. I will be ordering a Petrucci 6 string in a few weeks. After that, I will get the Axis. Now these are $3000.00 guitars that sell for $1800.00! They are a steal!
 

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There are no modern solid body guitars worth $3000.00, when we have CNC machinery carving out bodies and necks in about an hour. You're are not paying for quality woods and hardware. You are paying for American labour rates and most of all, the name. Acoustic guitars are a different story because a ton of skill and labour is poured into building an acoustic guitar.

My point about EB being a $3000.00 guitar selling for $1800.00 is that it is as good quality as a $3000.00 Gibson Les Paul. I can say the same for other guitar manufacturers like Peavey and Carvin that are producing exceptional quality guitars. This of course is my opinion, which is all that matters to me.

I am very open minded about what is available on the market today. There is no such thing as "The Best". The best guitar is the one you like, not somebody elses opinion.

I haven't been hyped at all........but it seems you have as you would still choose Gibson over Epiphone, even if the Epi was better?
 
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