Really? Let me pick out a quick one.I don't state facts here. That would be you.
I state opinions.
The truth? Seems like you're implying it's a fact.Milkman said:The truth is, a good player should be able to get his tone with whatever rig he chooses within reason.
Busted your "fact" with real facts.violation said:Your sound and phrasing comes from the fingers, tone comes from gear. Known fact...
LOL, clearly you're much brighter and more knowledgeable than I am when it comes to all things relating to playing in a band.Really? Let me pick out a quick one.
The truth? Seems like you're implying it's a fact.
Busted your "fact" with real facts.
So now you've made yourself look like a liar. Are you proud of that?
Haha, you can't even admit defeat without sarcasm. You fail.LOL, clearly you're much brighter and more knowledgeable than I am when it comes to all things relating to playing in a band.
I only hope I can gain the wisdom someday that you have already accumulated.
Thing is Shaun has been using Randall (with the preamp modules) for years and has never used a Line 6 product live. I know this for a fact! There was a huge article not too long ago about his gear and he didn't mention Line 6 once. Yet Line 6's site says he uses(d) their heads.Clapton has signature instruments with both Fender and Gibson. Who says that Line 6 users are exclusive? I use a Spider II amp because it gets me work. I also use a Trinity 5E3 kit tube amp because it meets other needs.
There are, by my count, over 150 artists on the Line 6 page to which I provided a link. You posted an image of one guy who is posed with a different manufacturers product. I'm sure if we wanted to waste time we could do that with all of the listed artists. Steve Howe had a signature ES-175, and he has been seen on stage with a Variax. Does that mean he is or is not a modelling user?
Spider III impressive? Waah?! Lol, I had one for about a week before taking it back... got it as a practice amp when they first came out. Was the first digital product I owned... first the knob that you use to change amp models stopped working, then the effects stopped working. It was all down hill from there, lol.My first amp, years before you were born, was a Peavey Audition 20. It sold for, (IIRC) over $200.00. It was and is a POS. $200.00 can buy you a pretty good all-in-one pedal board, or an impressive Spider III. You will get a wider array of useful tones than you can get with just one hand wired point to point all tube combo.
You prefer a specific sound, that's fine for you. Milkman and I prefer to work, and get paid for it. Modelling gives us the flexibility we need and can use to make it happen.
Lol @ Dr.Phil... example, I know your fingers can't change the tone of the amp where he said otherwise. Want to prove me wrong? Plug into a Fender and make it sound like a Mesa without the help of any effects. I'll give you all my gear if you can, rofl.Dr. Phil has a saying where many youth "...don't know what they don't know". Guys like Milkman and me, (and many others), have been doing this for 25+ years. We've got years of both giving and taking lessons under our belt. We've got post secondary music education. We've been through the death of guitar based rock bands more than once. We've made the decisions and gear choices that allow us to become, and continue to be, working musicians. You may choose a different route than us. It doesn't make any of us right or wrong, but your approach mostly comes across as a bit closed minded.
I don't know if that is true... I kind of see it being the other way around, newer products will be the ones people want and go after. Technology is always growing and improving, perfect example is parts inside a PC. After a month or a year the value of the product goes down significantly because something new and improved comes out.Just like the first generation BOSS effect pedals have become coveted on the used market, I believe that early generation modelling will become a "collectable".
Here's the crux.
A piece of gear that may be great for one person with a particular need may not be the best choice for another person with other needs. I normally gig with a single-channel tube amp and a couple of pedals. I love the sound and feel, and that setup gives me all the flexibility I need for what I do. Milkman and Paul need more variety for the things they do. My rig wouldn't cut it for them. Different strokes for different folks, as they say.
This is kind of like a carpenter and an electrician arguing over whether a soldering iron or a circular saw is the better tool.