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Just because GuitaristZ posted all those pics of natural finish solid bodies, I was major GAS'ing for one.

This isn't a great pic, but I'll take some better ones when it gets here:




Michael Kelly Valor Flame in Natural.

Pickups probably won't stay long, we'll see. But gotta love set mahogany neck with no heel and rosewood board, mahogany body and maple top, grover tuners, and push pulls for both pickups. :rockon2:
 

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No heel is good. Especially if you have a small hand and short fingers like me. Makes upper fret access much easier.
 

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lol it happens every now and again :p

nice lookin axe, im jealous
 

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Ok.
Didn't get a chance to take any pics, but...nice guitar! The top is really sweet, I'm glad I got a natural.

It's a short guitar, much more so than my Ibanez (24fret) or my Squier M-77. The latter has almost the same exact neck, but twice the square inches of body.

Even with the chambered body on the M-77, the MK weighs only about 2/3 as much or less. Same materials.

Nice neck, I'm not that knowledgeable about neck radii but it's a nice wider, thinner D than a strat. Not as thin as a Wizard.

If I could have found an Valor Custom in Natural (or maybe Amber) for around the same $$ I would have grabbed it...just for the Tonepros wrap around (this model has the wrap around bridge w/o any intonation adjustment). Also the pickups that come with the Customs are supposed to be worth leaving in. These MK PAFs were also made by Rockfield but the SWCs in the Custom are supposed to be much nicer. I'll play with it as is for a bit, but I have pickups ready to go in that will knock these PAFs out. The dual push-pull coil split works pretty good.

Out of the box the intonation was on, but the strings were the wrong gauge; MK Valors are setup for 10s, and this came with 9s. Slight truss rod tweak and a string change to 10s made a big difference.

The very minimal heel gives more access to the highest frets...but unfortunately the lower cutaway just isn't deep enough. If I played a lot on the 21st and 22nd frets (especially in EAD) I would have to come up with a new method.
Then again I have huge hands, all palm. :oops:



All in all, for around $400 it's a beautiful guitar, and to get as nice a looking guitar that plays this well and sounds good out of the box you'd probably have to double that if you were buying new. This MK is new and other than a pickup change (and the dealer having put the wrong strings in) I'm pretty happy. :rockon2:

Pics to follow in the next day or so.
 

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Even though I probably would have been satisfied with the stock pickups, I'm a born tweaker so out they went. ;)

Right now it's got a Tone Zone int he bridge and an Air Norton in the neck. A pretty good combination, and the two push-pulls give a lot of options.

This is only temporary as it will be replaced shortly with the hopefully permanent combination of Jon Moore Hybrid in the neck, and Black Widow in the bridge. :rockon2:
 

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I've been looking @ those for a while

Congrats on the new guitar,
I've been looking for a new guitar for some time now and for just about as long I've been looking, I’ve been looking @ Michael Kelly. The problem is, is that I don't kno anybody that has one and the dealers that sell them are all far away for me to go and try a couple times before I buy like I normally do. I've been looking @ the Valor Limited as well as the Valor Custom. It sounds like u kno more about these than I do...I only kno what I've read. Have you tried either one of these out? if so what are they like in comparison to yours?
I hope ur still rippin' it up!!! :rockon2:
 

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The Limited is the Spalted top model, right?

I was torn between the Custom and the Flame...LA Music had 2 on Ebay (the Flame I bought and a red Custom) and I went with the Flame because I wanted a Natural finish. Plus I already have a deep-red maple-topped guitar.

The Limited and Customs have better stock pickups, and they both direct mount from the front (the notches for the pickup tabs might take a while to get used to). I like the Natural's rear-mounting pickups because I can make frequent changes without having to touch the strings.

I looked at a Custom for a minute or two (didn't sit down and play it) and the fit n finish was quite good. I can't remember for the life of me if it was as light as my Flame or not ... with the pickup routing at the back along with the control routing it doesn't feel like a Mahogany/Maple guitar.

Certainly not like my M77 which feels like it could be used to kill a polar bear compared to my MK. :D

LA Music has the Custom in "Lava Red" still on Ebay, and it's the one I debated ordering. The price is right around whay I paid for the Flame (they've reduced it about $75 I think), and it's a *lot* of quality for the price.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/MICHAEL-KELLY-Valor-Custom-Lava-Red-NEW-IN-BOX-NICE_W0QQitemZ330123655501QQihZ014QQcategoryZ2384QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
 

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Ur a horrible influence Kicker haha

Yea that's the one w/ the spalted maple top...
However, that guitar that u showed me on ebay there is exactly what I need...well...want :D I'm not sure if u would kno or not but I’m curious of the reliability and longevity factor. Everything seems amazing with these guitars but I wouldn't want to come home one day and its sitting in its guitar stand folded up like a pretzel you kno? :eek: but the odds of that are slim I suppose. I love the look of that guitar u picked up as well, better than the red but they're are both great looking guitars. How 'bout if u don't like it after u order it, how does that work for ya? did urs come with a case? Thanks for getting back to me by the way, u've been a great help...
 

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Yea that's the one w/ the spalted maple top...
However, that guitar that u showed me on ebay there is exactly what I need...well...want :D I'm not sure if u would kno or not but I’m curious of the reliability and longevity factor. Everything seems amazing with these guitars but I wouldn't want to come home one day and its sitting in its guitar stand folded up like a pretzel you kno? :eek: but the odds of that are slim I suppose. I love the look of that guitar u picked up as well, better than the red but they're are both great looking guitars. How 'bout if u don't like it after u order it, how does that work for ya? did urs come with a case? Thanks for getting back to me by the way, u've been a great help...

Heh, considering what materials it's made of and the fact that it's a set neck if I came home and it was folded in half I'd declare shenanigans. :eek:

I'm not sure what LA Music's return policy is, their listings say "100% Satisfaction Guranteed" but what does that mean? I'd assume there would be a restocking fee if you returned it for reasons other than it was defective or damaged.

The only negative thing I've heard about them (other than shipping with 9s instead of the 10s it was designed for...they ship with 9s to reduce tension on the neck is the story) is the knobs and pots on some of them. I guess they are a bit wiggly on a few of them. Changing the knobs themselves apparently fixes the problem.

Mine are fine, I'm not a *huge* fan of push-pull pots as they all seem to be of so-so quality...by nature they're not as solid as a good CTS pot is. But they don't crackle, the push-pull does its job and has a very solid click from one position to another. I don't have any complaints about them, the guitar sounds great. :rockon2:
Maybe someday a manufacturer will make high quality versions of push-pull pots.

Mine came double boxed (and packaged *very* well). No case, no gig bag. I already had a hardcase for it anyhow.

I'd suggest finding a store that carries them and taking a road trip, they are definitely more than worth the cost.
 

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I've got a Michael Kelly patriot Phoenix... very nice gtr for the $$$.

Photo here...

I have not changed anything as I like it in all respects. The pups are better than I expected... a vintage PAF vibe, they do however feedback like the burstbucker they are vintage correct, no wax potting.

What really sold me on MK gtrs was the acoustic tonal qualities, the neck profile, the set neck design and how it allows escellent upper register access from a Les Paul like design, the top... it's a full thickness bookmatched flame maple arch top and all this for $500 cdn!

Even if I decided to change out the pups which I am not currently planning on doing the gtr would still fall in under the $750 mark if I go new or less is i go used.

It's a looker and a player.

Khing
 

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Love that top, not so fussy about the fretboard inlays, but the top makes up for that. Beautiful guitar.

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention, the Valor Flame (and Special I believe) have a simpler wrap-around bridge. The Limited and Custom have a Tonepros with intonation adjustment.

Not a problem for me right now as the intonation is pretty much bang on, but I kind of wish it had the TP.
 

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hahaha yea that’s definitely tru man

There will probably be some high quality versions of the push/pull pots being manufactured if there is enough support behind it, and from what I’ve seen...there is, which would be great.

I’ll definitely take ur advice and mosie on over to the Toronto area one of these days...a little road trip, and actually sit down with a couple of these and try them out. They seem to be worth it to me as well. :food-smiley-004:

Once again, thanks a lot for the advice, this is what I’ve been waiting to see...keep us updated on ur guitar as u break it in as well as that pup combo that u have...it sounds like a good set up. I will be keeping in touch as well.

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