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Everyone should buy these...I just can't understand why people pay thousands of dollars for gear and won't pay 150$ to save their hearing .
Coustfan'01 said:Everyone should buy these...I just can't understand why people pay thousands of dollars for gear and won't pay 150$ to save their hearing .
Playing too loud isn't the root cause! The drummer doesn't have to hit a cymbal very loud when you are only 4 feet away to start causing damage. Just because your ears aren't ringing after a gig/practice doesn't mean you aren't damaging them.Milkman said:I have another point of view.
If you need earplugs, you or someone in your band is TOO LOUD.
I believe in curing the root cause, not the symptom.
Here's another little gem for you. The guys wearing earplugs are in my experience the worst culprits for excessive volume and it's not difficult to figure out the reason.
Jeff Flowerday said:Playing too loud isn't the root cause! The drummer doesn't have to hit a cymbal very loud when you are only 4 feet away to start causing damage. Just because your ears aren't ringing after a gig/practice doesn't mean you aren't damaging them.
Some people need their ears in top shape. I'm one of them I because of my pilot's physical, so saying you are too loud is just BS.
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jroberts said:Best $125 I ever spent. I use them more when seeing other bands than when playing with my own, though.
We're not cranking the volume after putting the plugs... We play just loud enough to keep up with the drums , and you don't have to hit a chinese cymbal or snare very hard to sound loud . And when you're playing in a room with a bad acoustic , things get ugly pretty fast .Milkman said:I have another point of view.
If you need earplugs, you or someone in your band is TOO LOUD.
I believe in curing the root cause, not the symptom.
Here's another little gem for you. The guys wearing earplugs are in my experience the worst culprits for excessive volume and it's not difficult to figure out the reason.
You seem to have a lot of good solutions at your disposal...But can you use plexi shield when you play in a basement , in a concrete room so small you can't move ? That's more like the reality of kids playing in small bands.Milkman said:Not BS at all. My opinion. Drummers CAN play with dynamics although too few actually do. I take an almost "studio" approach to playing live. If my drummer can't play with proper dynamics I use a plexi shield.
I can talk in a very slightly raised voice to the other guys on stage while we play. The audience might need protection, but we don't.
I get my hearing checked once a year and after thirty years or more of standing on stage I still hear high end that my kids can't.
Again, it's really a function of your drummer using dynamics. Saying it can't be done because of a cymbal or a snare drum is a cop out in my opinion. The truth is, I work with the guys in my band until they "get it". If someone can't hear themselves we NEVER get into the escalating volume syndrome. We re-aim the amp in question until the player hears himself. The drummer ends up playing quietly at rehearsals because if he doesn't he won't hear anyone else.Coustfan'01 said:You seem to have a lot of good solutions at your disposal...But can you use plexi shield when you play in a basement , in a concrete room so small you can't move ? That's more like the reality of kids playing in small bands.
I'd be glad to have your chance though :wave:
I do agree with what you are saying but some situations are beyond our control so I think a small investment in earplugs just to have in your pocket is a good idea. For example I was giggin this weekend out of town. Did I play too loud YEA, but it was a loud band, drummer hit really hard and at sound check the singer asked me to turn up. Not really my place to tell them to turn down, his band his call. Drummer had serious credentials, that's the way he plays, again not my call. Van was too tight for two guitars unlikly that a plexi shield would take up valuable realestate. So for me they are in my pocket, take them out when I need them and don't expect the world to change to suit me. And I agree best money I spent on gear so far.Milkman said:Not BS at all. My opinion. Drummers CAN play with dynamics although too few actually do. I take an almost "studio" approach to playing live. If my drummer can't play with proper dynamics I use a plexi shield.
I can talk in a very slightly raised voice to the other guys on stage while we play. The audience might need protection, but we don't.
I get my hearing checked once a year and after thirty years or more of standing on stage I still hear high end that my kids can't.
aaron lowen said:I do agree with what you are saying but some situations are beyond our control so I think a small investment in earplugs just to have in your pocket is a good idea. For example I was giggin this weekend out of town. Did I play too loud YEA, but it was a loud band, drummer hit really hard and at sound check the singer asked me to turn up. Not really my place to tell them to turn down, his band his call. Drummer had serious credentials, that's the way he plays, again not my call. Van was too tight for two guitars unlikly that a plexi shield would take up valuable realestate. So for me they are in my pocket, take them out when I need them and don't expect the world to change to suit me. And I agree best money I spent on gear so far.
Bands are loud by nature, but to an extent, that's the result of old fashioned thinking and allowing drummers to play without dynamics. We use small amps on stage and side wash them so that they're pointing at our ears (not our rears).Telemark said:I bought ER-15 db custom molded plugs. For my situation - small stage - very loud drummer - it has enabled me to keep playing. I had a poor fit for a few songs this weekend and once I got the plug seated everything was very clear, much clearer than without.
I do envy you Milkman it would be optimum to go au natural. In fact, I have just put in my notice with this band, and the stage voume was definetly a factor...
Mark.
sysexguy said:best $150 I ever spent!!!!!!
even if playing is difficult, a typical gig is about 2-2.5 hours of playing while being in the club for say 6 hours. Using the plugs in the breaks makes a big difference in the exposure time, fatigue and ear damage....usually the DJ is louder and more distorted than anything musicians produce (but that's another story). Andy
david henman said:...good point!
however, i played a club in barrie a few years ago where the between set music was ungodly loud. worse, it was exceedingly cold - the only escape was to go sit in the car with the heater on.
-dh
Dude, I've worked around Pa's for more than thirty years. Unplugging a cabinet directed at my head is self defense, particularly when they have ten in the club. The ones I refer to are on a dance floor that by that time is totally abandoned and I always plug them back in.Smurf42 said:"I've had to "accidentally" unplug a cab or two"
Did you know these people? If not that is totally not cool at all....