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Now we're getting serious. I know absolutely nothing about either of these. What would you suggest for a stupid newb? lol Something not too complicated. I don't even know what specific sound I am looking for! Or, do I really need one?

I did try EVH phaser pedal and loved it. I am looking for that big ballsy in your face sound but also Angus Young tone NO or hardly any distortion.

Could some one direct me to a site where I can do some homework? I have to start at the bottom and work my way up!

I did try Cheezyryders at our last jam together and it was a little complex but OMG what a great sound and tone but I didn't even know what I was doing or what button I pushed. He just handed me his LP and said "go nuts" and I did without knowing anything
 

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Are you the sort who would use several different effects at once, or are you simply wondering if something could provide you the convenience of many things to choose from in a convenient package?
 

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Are you the sort who would use several different effects at once, or are you simply wondering if something could provide you the convenience of many things to choose from in a convenient package?
Yes and no. I don't want a board where I am paying for something that I will rarely use or even want for that matter!
 

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I would suggest the Boss ME series. A used ME 50 or 70 works like a row of pedals and gives you the versatility of multiple choices of each effect.
 

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AC/DC tone is derived from amps. If you don't think you need any effects, then simply don't buy any pedals. If you know you really want reverb/delay/lead boost/compressor/flanger/tremolo then start looking into what's good on a budget (there's a few brands on the market that fall into this category new and used).

I knew I liked delay from the first time I borrowed my teacher's multi-fx pedal, and now many years later I own three different units. Though my board has 10 or so pedals, most of them are reverb and delay.

edit: this is a hilarious yet very informative explanation of effects:

http://www.analogman.com/monkey.htm
 

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After getting back into playing electric after many years I was a bit out of touch with the current available effects. My only experience with pedals was with a waw and tubescreamer. I bought a Zoom MS-50G to help me figure out which sound I wanted and if I even wanted pedals in the first place. It came with 55 effets and I found it very usefull to sort out what I like and did not like.

https://www.long-mcquade.com/18399/Guitars/Guitar_Effects/Zoom/MultiStomp_Guitar_Effects_Pedal.htm

Now they have this one which is even cheaper with 100 effects.

https://www.long-mcquade.com/48653/Guitars/Guitar_Effects/Zoom/G1on_Guitar_Multi-FX_Processor.htm
 

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My issue with cheap multi's is that there's a good chance that the effect won't properly be represented. If you hear a really crappy delay, then you probably won't be interested even though there's some great $100-or-less options out there. Same for other types of effects.
 

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I will recommend the way I got into this: start with a multi effects unit, will be cheap and you will learn all basics about effects, different amps and signal chains using virtual representations. Once you have a better idea of what they are, how to use them and which ones you need or like, go for the real deal.

Boss multi effects are pretty good, a Line 6 POD XT live will serve as well.

Now, once you decide to jump on the real deal you might want to try different brands/model of the same effect until you find the one that vibrates with you. Ask again when you are there. Forums helped me put together my pedalboard.
 

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Yeah...multi effects are the way to go when trying to figure things out at first. Once you find an overall sound that you want, some specific effects will really serve to enhance the sound...compression for instance or some minuscule delay on those leads. I currently have a number of analogue pedals as well as a POD HD300 (very underwhelming). I'm a bit of a tone nutcase, so I really have a hard time with many of the digital effects and much prefer the analogue side of things with both pedals and amplifiers (tube).

I'm still working at this stuff after 30 years of playing hard rock/metal and still haven't figured it out yet. I'm probably way too picky.
 

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I do love love love delay. The wah not so much! Can you say distortion with a capital DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD! And Chorus! Got to have some chorus.
 

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There are lots of good overdrive and distortion pedals, but they aren't always cheap. I prefer to get my dirt from an amp, however there are pedals from $120-$180 that will get some really great tones in front of clean amps.

If you're interested in trying the multi route, I suggest seeing if you can rent or borrow one. You should know fairly quick what you're after.

The good news is it's possible to assemble a nice little board with everything you need for around $250 (if you're not afraid to go used on some or all components).
 

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Coincidentally I run an overdrive in front of a clean amp for the main gig, and the pedal makes the same sound as the amp would if I were pushing it :D
 

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I recommend a multi-effects unit. Heck you can get a decent one for the price of one single booteek overdrive pedal and you'll get a heck of a lot more from it.
 

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I still prefer individual pedals personally, mainly because i find them easier to tweak, but as Mike says multi's are pretty damn cheap these days and things like the Zoom G3 or G5 sound pretty damn good.
 

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You can't go wrong with a TC Nova System. They are pretty cheap nowadays and sound fantastic. If I had one of these as my first, I would have been very happy.
 

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Thanks so much to all of you for your input! I have a lot of homework to do! I have options. Good to know!!

I don't have a huge budget! I would buy used! Why not?
 

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If you are looking for distortion, I suggest a ProCo Rat!

And if you are looking for a Chorus, I have a Danelectro Cool Cat Chorus here that I can easily be convinced to send over to you. ;)
 
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