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I guess...but I have seen new Classics and Traditional's that look as good as the R's at a quarter of the price.

I do actually see the value in re-issues made by Gibson at 4-5k.
What I don't get, are the handmade '59 replicas for 5-8k, not made by Gibson..
How is more acceptable than a Chinese copy?? Spend a couple hundred on the Chibson, and it will sound and play as good as any Gibson ever made.
 

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I love the look of an R9, and who are we kidding? If I had the money, I'd buy one, BUT my 80's Tokai Love Rocks are as good as the 2007 Gibson Standard I had. The Gibby had a MUCH nicer top and felt a little more polished (and it was), but the '81 LS-100 and '82 LS-50 that I have both play great and sound like what a Les Paul should sound like, so I'm happy.

Personally, unless I was getting the 70's Goldtop Deluxe or the Black Beauty Custom I've always wanted, I think $2,000 is about the limit I'd pay for a really good Les Paul. Anything beyond that is just unnecessary for me.
 

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I guess...but I have seen new Classics and Traditional's that look as good as the R's at a quarter of the price.

I do actually see the value in re-issues made by Gibson at 4-5k.
What I don't get, are the handmade '59 replicas for 5-8k, not made by Gibson..
How is more acceptable than a Chinese copy?? Spend a couple hundred on the Chibson, and it will sound and play as good as any Gibson ever made.
I hear you on the replicas. Since Gibson upped their game on Reissues in 2013, that does leave me wondering as well but, i guess there is still a market. Everyone has a comfort threshold on $$$ spent on an instrument. Last couple years, i have broken that rule a few times and my perspective (and possibly my threshold) has changed a bit.
 

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A bit OT....actually 100% totally off topic...but I've been trying out a couple of different styles of guitar lately. Strat I rented for a few days was quickly exchanged for a LP Studio. I'm now trying out a Tele, which I sorta like but it just isn't speaking to me the way I prefer. I've come to the decision that I'm 100% a LP guy. I suppose it's limiting in one way or another, but I just cannot get into the other styles of guitar. I really don't know what it is exactly, but it's there and a seemingly unbreakable compulsion. I even tried an SG the other day and hung it back up after about 10 minutes.

Anyone else (besides Slash...haha) suffer from this odd affliction? I may try an ESP , Epiphone, or PRS route, but it has GOT to look and feel like a LP.
 

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Very reasonable comments in their video.
 

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A bit OT....actually 100% totally off topic...but I've been trying out a couple of different styles of guitar lately. Strat I rented for a few days was quickly exchanged for a LP Studio. I'm now trying out a Tele, which I sorta like but it just isn't speaking to me the way I prefer. I've come to the decision that I'm 100% a LP guy. I suppose it's limiting in one way or another, but I just cannot get into the other styles of guitar. I really don't know what it is exactly, but it's there and a seemingly unbreakable compulsion. I even tried an SG the other day and hung it back up after about 10 minutes.

Anyone else (besides Slash...haha) suffer from this odd affliction? I may try an ESP , Epiphone, or PRS route, but it has GOT to look and feel like a LP.
you like what you like. Believe me you are happy one - at least you know what you like!!!

Now choose the one you like and... as I would usually say... ROCK ON :)
 

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Im a singlecut guy at heart, who enjoys other body styles. Not so much for look but how the guitar sits on my body. That said I use a superstrat a fair amount.
 

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A bit OT....actually 100% totally off topic...but I've been trying out a couple of different styles of guitar lately. Strat I rented for a few days was quickly exchanged for a LP Studio. I'm now trying out a Tele, which I sorta like but it just isn't speaking to me the way I prefer. I've come to the decision that I'm 100% a LP guy. I suppose it's limiting in one way or another, but I just cannot get into the other styles of guitar. I really don't know what it is exactly, but it's there and a seemingly unbreakable compulsion. I even tried an SG the other day and hung it back up after about 10 minutes.

Anyone else (besides Slash...haha) suffer from this odd affliction? I may try an ESP , Epiphone, or PRS route, but it has GOT to look and feel like a LP.
And I'm exactly the opposite. Started out with a ton of Les Pauls and for some reason (yet unknown to me) I gravitated to Teles and it's been that way for a long time.
Edit: not to say I don't like Les Pauls, they just aren't the guitar that I reach for first.
 

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A bit OT....actually 100% totally off topic...but I've been trying out a couple of different styles of guitar lately. Strat I rented for a few days was quickly exchanged for a LP Studio. I'm now trying out a Tele, which I sorta like but it just isn't speaking to me the way I prefer. I've come to the decision that I'm 100% a LP guy. I suppose it's limiting in one way or another, but I just cannot get into the other styles of guitar. I really don't know what it is exactly, but it's there and a seemingly unbreakable compulsion. I even tried an SG the other day and hung it back up after about 10 minutes.

Anyone else (besides Slash...haha) suffer from this odd affliction? I may try an ESP , Epiphone, or PRS route, but it has GOT to look and feel like a LP.
You can rent guitars ? Try a PRS single cut. You'll fall in love.
 

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A bit OT....actually 100% totally off topic...but I've been trying out a couple of different styles of guitar lately. Strat I rented for a few days was quickly exchanged for a LP Studio. I'm now trying out a Tele, which I sorta like but it just isn't speaking to me the way I prefer. I've come to the decision that I'm 100% a LP guy. I suppose it's limiting in one way or another, but I just cannot get into the other styles of guitar. I really don't know what it is exactly, but it's there and a seemingly unbreakable compulsion. I even tried an SG the other day and hung it back up after about 10 minutes.

Anyone else (besides Slash...haha) suffer from this odd affliction? I may try an ESP , Epiphone, or PRS route, but it has GOT to look and feel like a LP.
Be glad you found your ultimate guitar and go with it. I'm on the other side of the fence. I love Fenders, especially Strats. Never played a Gibson I really liked and as much as I've tried over the years I cannot bond with Les Pauls. But that's just me, no slant against Gibsons just never been my cup of tea.
 

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When I commented on the video, I said that a cheap Epi is not going to sound bad through a good valve amp and cab.
 

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I think this is interesting. Note that Randy is playing an Epi GT while his Gibby GT serves backup duty on the stand.


My old mentor, Petro, used to say: "Art is science with more than seven variables." Guitar building has more than seven variables and that, IMO, is why we often get unexpected outcomes from our 'scientific' endeavors. Using all the perfect parts doesn't always make a perfect guitar, just like how the occasional guitar made with cheap stuff hits way above it's weight limit.

But I would say using good components increases the likelihood of a better guitar. And I would say, in the acoustic world, it is much more of a likelihood, but again not a guarantee.

Play what you like. And like what you play.
 
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A bit OT....actually 100% totally off topic...but I've been trying out a couple of different styles of guitar lately. Strat I rented for a few days was quickly exchanged for a LP Studio. I'm now trying out a Tele, which I sorta like but it just isn't speaking to me the way I prefer. I've come to the decision that I'm 100% a LP guy. I suppose it's limiting in one way or another, but I just cannot get into the other styles of guitar. I really don't know what it is exactly, but it's there and a seemingly unbreakable compulsion. I even tried an SG the other day and hung it back up after about 10 minutes.

Anyone else (besides Slash...haha) suffer from this odd affliction? I may try an ESP , Epiphone, or PRS route, but it has GOT to look and feel like a LP.
I have never played a true Les Paul, being left handed and expensive, they just aren't around here in lowly ole' Regina, SK. What I grew up playing was an Epiphone LP100. Same body shape, even has a carved top but a significantly thinner body and bolt on neck. Then I moved on to a Gibson SG. Thin body again but still with humbuckers and stop bar bridge. What I have laid my formula down to is the need for humbuckers and a bridge that stands relatively tall off the body. I have owned a Mexican and an American strat, hated both. The strings are to close to the body and the middle pickup gets in the way of my strumming. Also, didn't have the balls of a humbucker tucked up at the bridge. I also had a Jackson with a FR type bridge and it was the same thing. It had a bucker in the bridge but still didn't like the feel of the low strings to the body.

Basically what I am saying is that I feel ya bud. I have a friend that keeps telling me I will fall in love with a good Strat some day. I keep telling him that after having played for 20 years, if I don't like them now, I probably never will.
 
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