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I wish I was looking for one of these. I would jump on it in a nanosecond, especially with the wide neck which is right up my alley. The bump on the back wouldn't bother me in the least as I could fix that myself. How about you? For $399.00 USD.


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It will lighten the very heavy Agile guitar.
Yes, it will be 1/2 ounce lighter making it 3 ounces lighter than the competition. You obviously missed the chart that was posted here last week.
 

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I definitely missed the chart, what was the chart?
You need to stay with us. You missed it because you were not paying attention. Now you will have to search to find it.
 
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All this talk of charts is making me thirsty.
May I suggest you grab your warm glass of milk and call it a day. You'll be better equipped to find it in the morning. Don't look for charts. Look for my posts. (hint, hint).
 

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Agile guitars are insanely great guitars , no matter what people say .

A few years ago, a guitar student one over to take lessons from me.
It was black, with chrome hardware, a Licensed Floyd Rose and 24 frets .... it was unbelievable and it cost only $ 350.00 US .

When I called Rondo Music, they didn't sell that model of guitar anymore 🥺
Yes, people say they are too heavy but they are the same weight as a similar Gibson. Some say they don't sound like a Gibson. No, they don't sound exactly like a Gibson. Neither does a Gibson sound exactly like an Agile or an Ibanez, PRS, Eastman, etc., etc., etc. They are all lame excuses, often because someone paid thousands for a guitar and can't accept that a guitar for less than $600.00 is as good or better.
 

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I think literally tens of thousands of people would disagree with you, including most of the music industry. Is there a possibility... you're wrong?
Yes, there is a possibility but it is very, very slight, well, pretty much impossible. :)

This is not the first time I have made this comment and most do disagree with me. However, they are all lame excuses and many are based on long held bias.

If you are old enough, remember when we saw the same thing in the auto industry? People put down the Japanese imports because they saw the imports as inferior, even after it was very obvious they were no longer inferior but superior. It has taken forty or so years but you see more cars that are not Chrysler, Ford or GM. When people own a certain brand, it is human nature to admit that may have been a mistake or you paid too much.
 

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And while resale value is not an intrinsic instrument quality, it does matter.
I agree it matters.
How much would you lose on a $3K-4K Gibson?
How much would you lose on a $600.00 Agile?
 
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Well, first of all, you don’t automatically pay $3k-$4k for a Gibson, even new, so that’s a false argument right there. Secondly I could sell the last Gibson I bought for twice what I paid, so probably about… negative $800?

You’ll notice I didn’t say anything negative about Agile guitars, and I’m by no means a Gibson die-hard.
That is interesting for sure. How long have you owned that Gibson?
 

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Here is what I found for the weight of a Gibson LP and the link. How Much Does a Gibson Les Paul Weigh (All Models) - Guitar Inside Out.

Gibson Les Paul Weights by Model
The table below shows the different models of each Gibson Les Paul and the weight of them. These are rough averages rather than specific weights but they will give you a good idea of the whereabouts of each models weight.

ModelWeight
Standard9-12lbs (4-5.5kg)
Custom9-11lbs (4-5kg)
Junior7-8lbs (3.1-3.6kg)
Special7-8lbs (3.1-3.6kg)
Studio8lbs (3.6kg)
Traditional9-10lbs (4-4.5kg)
Tribute8lbs (3.6kg)
Deluxe9-10lbs (4-4.5kg)
 

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I empathize with Steadfastly having to take on the whole forum.
You just want a free lunch the next time I see you, don'tcha? :D
 

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Discussion Starter · #31 ·
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Here's my chart - I weighed them all myself

YearBrandModelTypeWeight
2011​
EpiphoneES-335 DotStudio7 lb 1 oz
2009​
EpiphoneLes PaulUltra II7 lb 13 oz
2018​
EpiphoneLes PaulTraditional Pro III Plus7 lb 13 oz
2017​
EpiphoneLes PaulStandard8 lb 8 oz
2005​
EpiphoneLes PaulClassic9 lb 8 oz
2016​
FenderStratocasterAmerican Pro7 lb 7 oz
2003​
FenderTelecasterAmerican Ash9 lb 2 oz
2007​
GibsonBFGStudio7 lb 10 oz
2002​
GibsonBlueshawk6 lb 6 oz
2016​
GibsonES-335Block Figured7 lb 10 oz
2014​
GibsonES-339Studio7 lb 3 oz
2008​
GibsonES-339Custom Shop7 lb 7 oz
2016​
GibsonFlying VPro T6 lb 5 oz
2018​
GibsonLes PaulClassic10 lb 1 oz
1999​
GibsonLes PaulCustom10 lb 10 oz
2022​
GibsonLes PaulClassic Faded Limited Edition10 lb 2 oz
1976​
GibsonLes PaulDeluxe10 lb 5 oz
1976​
GibsonLes PaulStandard10 lb 9 oz
2014​
GibsonLes PaulES5 lb 15 oz
2007​
GibsonLes PaulClassic Antique7 lb 10 oz
2017​
GibsonLes PaulTribute7 lb 14 o
2018​
GibsonLes PaulStudio7 lb 14 oz
2022​
GibsonLes PaulCustom Shop 1959 Reissue7 lb 15 oz
2013​
GibsonLes PaulCustom Lite7 lb 2 oz
2007​
GibsonLes PaulClassic Antique Guitar of the Week #277 lb 3 oz
2016​
GibsonLes PaulSpecial Plus7 lb 3 oz
2012​
GibsonLes PaulStudio7 lb 8 oz
2010​
GibsonLes PaulStudio8 lb 0 oz
1996​
GibsonLes PaulStudio8 lb 10 oz
2020​
GibsonLes Paul60th Anniversary 1960 Reissue8 lb 12 oz
2009​
GibsonLes PaulCustom Shop 1959 Reissue8 lb 14 oz
2001​
GibsonLes PaulCustom Shop Class 58 lb 15 oz
2007​
GibsonLes PaulClassic Antique8 lb 5 oz
2018​
GibsonLes PaulFaded8 lb 5 oz
2017​
GibsonLes PaulStudio HP8 lb 6 oz
2012​
GibsonLes PaulTraditional8 lb 7 oz
2018​
GibsonLes PaulStandard8 lb 8 oz
2021​
GibsonLes PaulCustom9 lb
2006​
GibsonLes PaulSupreme9 lb 10 oz
2014​
GibsonLes PaulTraditional9 lb 12 oz
1980​
GibsonLes PaulDeluxe9 lb 13 oz
2019​
GibsonLes PaulClassic9 lb 13 oz
2018​
GibsonLes PaulClassic9 lb 13 oz
2018​
GibsonLes PaulClassic9 lb 13 oz
2017​
GibsonLes PaulClassic Zebra Goldtop9 lb 13 oz
2019​
GibsonLes PaulStandard 60's9 lb 14 oz
2007​
GibsonLes PaulCustom Shop 1956 Reissue (Popular Demand Series)9 lb 2 oz
2016​
GibsonLes PaulStandard9 lb 3 oz
2017​
GibsonLes PaulTribute9 lb 3 oz
2012​
GibsonLes PaulTraditional Plus Top9 lb 4 oz
2018​
GibsonLes PaulDeluxe Player Plus9 lb 5 oz
1979​
GibsonLes PaulDeluxe9 lb 6 oz
2020​
GibsonLes PaulClassic Faded Limited Edition9 lb 6 oz
2011​
GibsonLes PaulTraditional Pro Exclusive9 lb 6 oz
2001​
GibsonLes PaulStudio9 lb 8 oz
2016​
GibsonLes PaulClassic9 lb 9 oz
2000​
GibsonLes PaulDeluxe9 lb 9 oz
2016​
GibsonSGStandard6 lb 10 oz
2019​
GibsonSGSpecial (SGSP19FPCH1)6 lb 6 oz
2016​
GibsonSGSpecial 70's Tribute T (SGSP70WCCH)6 lb 9 oz
2008​
GibsonSGSG Diablo Month 117 lb 3 oz
1969​
GibsonSGSpecial7 lb 9 oz
The ones I looked at seem pretty much what one would expect. But c'mon, you're pulling my leg about weighing them all yourself. :D
 

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Nobody cares. Please buy all the Keisels you like. For the price of a good steak, you could buy 57 hot dogs.
Oh, I think Gibson cares. They have lost a lot of market share over the years and that has bit into their bottom line. The very fact that they are promoting Epiphone so much is that they are hoping to hang onto or gain a little bit of that market share back. The younger generation of buyers are not stuck on the Gibson name as the older generation, much like the North American auto industry. With the internet, it's hard to fool people into believing the marketing that Gibson and to some extent, Fender is using in their claims.
 

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Here's me officially not giving a shit about: the younger generation, Epiphone, the car industry, the internet, or what else I could buy with the money that I spend.
Of course, your money, your guitars, your time and your life. It's the same with all of us. We are free to make our own decisions.
 
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