[BlueRocker]

If it was a guitar I was interested in - get out the black sharpie so it's not so noticeable. But I could see it being off-putting as someone's first guitar.

 

[BlueRocker]

I definitely missed the chart, what was the chart?

What was the competition?

 

[BlueRocker]

They are all lame excuses, often because someone paid thousands for a guitar and can't accept that a guitar for less than $600.00 is as good or better.

I think literally tens of thousands of people would disagree with you, including most of the music industry. Is there a possibility... you're wrong?

 

[BlueRocker]

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Here is what I found for the weight of a Gibson LP and the link. How Much Does a Gibson Les Paul Weigh (All Models) - Guitar Inside Out.

Gibson Les Paul Weights by Model
The table below shows the different models of each Gibson Les Paul and the weight of them. These are rough averages rather than specific weights but they will give you a good idea of the whereabouts of each models weight.

Model	Weight
Standard	9-12lbs (4-5.5kg)
Custom	9-11lbs (4-5kg)
Junior	7-8lbs (3.1-3.6kg)
Special	7-8lbs (3.1-3.6kg)
Studio	8lbs (3.6kg)
Traditional	9-10lbs (4-4.5kg)
Tribute	8lbs (3.6kg)
Deluxe	9-10lbs (4-4.5kg)

Here's my chart - I weighed them all myself

Year	Brand	Model	Type	Weight
2011​	Epiphone	ES-335 Dot	Studio	7 lb 1 oz
2009​	Epiphone	Les Paul	Ultra II	7 lb 13 oz
2018​	Epiphone	Les Paul	Traditional Pro III Plus	7 lb 13 oz
2017​	Epiphone	Les Paul	Standard	8 lb 8 oz
2005​	Epiphone	Les Paul	Classic	9 lb 8 oz
2016​	Fender	Stratocaster	American Pro	7 lb 7 oz
2003​	Fender	Telecaster	American Ash	9 lb 2 oz
2007​	Gibson	BFG	Studio	7 lb 10 oz
2002​	Gibson	Blueshawk		6 lb 6 oz
2016​	Gibson	ES-335	Block Figured	7 lb 10 oz
2014​	Gibson	ES-339	Studio	7 lb 3 oz
2008​	Gibson	ES-339	Custom Shop	7 lb 7 oz
2016​	Gibson	Flying V	Pro T	6 lb 5 oz
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic	10 lb 1 oz
1999​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom	10 lb 10 oz
2022​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic Faded Limited Edition	10 lb 2 oz
1976​	Gibson	Les Paul	Deluxe	10 lb 5 oz
1976​	Gibson	Les Paul	Standard	10 lb 9 oz
2014​	Gibson	Les Paul	ES	5 lb 15 oz
2007​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic Antique	7 lb 10 oz
2017​	Gibson	Les Paul	Tribute	7 lb 14 o
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Studio	7 lb 14 oz
2022​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom Shop 1959 Reissue	7 lb 15 oz
2013​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom Lite	7 lb 2 oz
2007​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic Antique Guitar of the Week #27	7 lb 3 oz
2016​	Gibson	Les Paul	Special Plus	7 lb 3 oz
2012​	Gibson	Les Paul	Studio	7 lb 8 oz
2010​	Gibson	Les Paul	Studio	8 lb 0 oz
1996​	Gibson	Les Paul	Studio	8 lb 10 oz
2020​	Gibson	Les Paul	60th Anniversary 1960 Reissue	8 lb 12 oz
2009​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom Shop 1959 Reissue	8 lb 14 oz
2001​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom Shop Class 5	8 lb 15 oz
2007​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic Antique	8 lb 5 oz
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Faded	8 lb 5 oz
2017​	Gibson	Les Paul	Studio HP	8 lb 6 oz
2012​	Gibson	Les Paul	Traditional	8 lb 7 oz
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Standard	8 lb 8 oz
2021​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom	9 lb
2006​	Gibson	Les Paul	Supreme	9 lb 10 oz
2014​	Gibson	Les Paul	Traditional	9 lb 12 oz
1980​	Gibson	Les Paul	Deluxe	9 lb 13 oz
2019​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic	9 lb 13 oz
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic	9 lb 13 oz
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic	9 lb 13 oz
2017​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic Zebra Goldtop	9 lb 13 oz
2019​	Gibson	Les Paul	Standard 60's	9 lb 14 oz
2007​	Gibson	Les Paul	Custom Shop 1956 Reissue (Popular Demand Series)	9 lb 2 oz
2016​	Gibson	Les Paul	Standard	9 lb 3 oz
2017​	Gibson	Les Paul	Tribute	9 lb 3 oz
2012​	Gibson	Les Paul	Traditional Plus Top	9 lb 4 oz
2018​	Gibson	Les Paul	Deluxe Player Plus	9 lb 5 oz
1979​	Gibson	Les Paul	Deluxe	9 lb 6 oz
2020​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic Faded Limited Edition	9 lb 6 oz
2011​	Gibson	Les Paul	Traditional Pro Exclusive	9 lb 6 oz
2001​	Gibson	Les Paul	Studio	9 lb 8 oz
2016​	Gibson	Les Paul	Classic	9 lb 9 oz
2000​	Gibson	Les Paul	Deluxe	9 lb 9 oz
2016​	Gibson	SG	Standard	6 lb 10 oz
2019​	Gibson	SG	Special (SGSP19FPCH1)	6 lb 6 oz
2016​	Gibson	SG	Special 70's Tribute T (SGSP70WCCH)	6 lb 9 oz
2008​	Gibson	SG	SG Diablo Month 11	7 lb 3 oz
1969​	Gibson	SG	Special	7 lb 9 oz

 

[BlueRocker]

Such a stupid conversation to compare an agile to a more expensive Gibson. Even dumber to claim how a $600 guitar is as good or better than a $3,000 guitar as a blanket statement. But I'd expect nothing less than this from a moron like steadfastly as he sounds like a broken record trying to reinforce his opinion like its fact. Its great there are guitars like Agile that can give players with a limited budget with a great value guitar. I've owned and own less expensive guitars like this. I certainly don't expect them to be as good as my more expensive guitars but sometimes they give me just as much joy, playing them.

You obviously haven't done your research

 

[BlueRocker]

Look at the "B" hurt of the previous post . Very childish .
Gibson has lost lots of respect in the guitar playing community , with their lawsuits / " Play Authentic " attitude. I know a couple of guys at GC, Gibson isn't a big seller anymore . For that Gibson price , you could buy a PRS or two Keisel guitars, without the Gibson price gauging, QC issues .....

Nobody cares. Please buy all the Keisels you like. For the price of a good steak, you could buy 57 hot dogs.

 

[BlueRocker]

Here's me officially not giving a shit about: the younger generation, Epiphone, the car industry, the internet, or what else I could buy with the money that I spend.