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ClintonHammond said:
... as in the 9/11 conspiracy bullflop??
...like the roswell folk, they give the government a lot of credit for being able to orchestrate a cover up of this magnitude, when they can't even keep an oral office blow job under wraps.

on the other hand, i read something somewhere about a government that invaded a foreign country on the pretext that there were weapons hidden...uh...somewhere?

what i'm curious about, however, are some of the disturbing questions raised in the movie...

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It's a load of conspiracy crap. There are no questions to be brought up from it because it's based on no science, junk science or outlandish theories. And, like all conspiracies, they pick and choose what information they want to use, while throwing out any scientific evidence that refutes their claims.

The guys from Popular Science took them on. I think the videos are on YouTube.
 

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I love the 9/11 conspiracy nutjobs. They claim that the US government staged it all so that they could invade Iraq. Wouldnt it be alot simpler to stage that Iraq had WMD and they had to invade them? No, it makes so much more sense to do it this way doesnt it? The only question that movie raised for me is how gullable are people that they accept "facts" without looking into those "facts." But then they bought into less believe crap before. The 2000s have been the decade of the "I believe it because I saw a documentary on it, and documentarys never lie." Just ask Al Gore.....................
 

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Just ask Al Gore.....................
Ah man, not this shit again. What does that even have to do with this?

As far as moderators go, you're not very moderate, are you?
 

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Hamm, we're talking conspiracy theories here, not conflicting science findings polarized by political lines. They're two totally different things.

Here's a conspiracy theory that is comparable to the Loose Change crapfest- people that don't believe man landed on the moon. They trot out mounds and mounds of made up stuff and every time it's scientifically shot down, they just either don't accept it or say that the scientists are in the pocket of Big (insert conspiracy theory here). It's a logic trap.

Ever see that video of Buzz Aldrin punching the crap out of the annoying moon landing conspiracy nut? It's awesome.
 
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"Buzz Aldrin punching the crap out of the annoying moon landing conspiracy nut"
URL please?!?!?!
 

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Ah man, not this shit again. What does that even have to do with this?

As far as moderators go, you're not very moderate, are you?
Moderators dont have to be moderate. There is very little difference between Dylan Avery's whackjob theory that Bush is Satan and Al Gore's whackjob theory that Dee Snider is Satan. Of course, now he thinks Bush is Satan too, so now Im confused. Maybe Dee and Bush are the same person?...........
 

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...you guys are certainly welcome to your opinions, but are any of you experts on the subject? do you have all the facts at your disposal?

i am constantly amused by folks who ignore the entire scientific community and say "hey, look! its cold out today! therefore global warming is a liberal conspiracy designed to undermine our great capitalist greedfest!"

the intention of this thread was not to divide us into believers vs non-believers or even liberals vs conservatives.

the movie raised some interesting questions. if your "opinion" is that they are bogus questions, that is just swell. have a nice day.

however, if you have real information, i'm intrigued.

-dh
 

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...you guys are certainly welcome to your opinions, but are any of you experts on the subject? do you have all the facts at your disposal?
I'm most certainly not. Neither are the yarn-spinning, fantasyland creators of Loose Change.

However, when the guys from Popular Mechanics and other scientists tell me that the LC guys are full of crap, I'm inclined to believe them because they most certainly know what the heck they're talking about. I'll take their side every day of the week.
 

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Hi Nine,

That was just backing away from a land mine that I almost dropped on my foot. I almost posted something that some people find extreamly offensive, not because I believe the information one way or the other, but because it has been made clear that simply seeking the truth is unlawful.

When seeking the truth becomes unlawful, you have to start wondering.
 

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Here's the debate they had:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0XEHahJ2Q

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Fm3Zc7D8I

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpckijMVe3I

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEg6XEP-Cig

So David, I dont' think it's out of line in any way for me to think that the Loose Change guys are full of it. I've listened to what they've had to say and I've listened to what real experts have to say and have decided that the Loose Change guys don't know what the heck they're talking about.
 

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Hamm Guitars said:
When seeking the truth becomes unlawful, you have to start wondering.
Although I'm not sure what you're referring to, I'd have to agree with this statement.

However (and this is a HUGE however), when the "truth" is found, people should also make some freakin' effort to accept it. That's where Loose Change and the moon landing nuts fail. It's more like a religion to them than anything else. They just go on faith.
 
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