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Why is she not paying off the big fat mega billion dollar debt with the money? It's like selling your house with a mortgage and then instead of paying off the mortage you take a trip to Vegas and blow all the cash. Then for the next 30 year make payments...

Just pay off the f'ing debt!
 

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C'mon, you know how these things go. They practically give them away and any money is earmarked for projects that will give them the most votes in the next election.
 
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They won't be able to get out from under this Hydro selloff. Nobody will vote Liberal ever again. Ontario will likely be Conservative for the next 1oo years.
 

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If it goes anything like Nova Scotia Power, I feel for you. Nothing like giving a private corporation a legal monopoly over a public necessity, and still paying their government salary equivalent on top from the tax pool.

But they must have it rough, as they had to raise the power rates again a year or so ago. 400k a year for mid level executives wasn't enough I guess.
 

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i'm working on a toronto hydro bldg right now. i did another one last year. they sure know how to spend money, that's for sure
 
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Me too.
I have great ideas with someone else's money.
 

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EFF hydro. Put solar panels on the roof and charge an electric forklift battery all day. No getting ripped off paying hydro for, or selling too them.
 
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EFF hydro. Put solar panels on the roof and charge an electric forklift battery all day. No getting ripped off paying hydro for, or selling too them.
Hard to run my well pump, stove, hot water tank, electric clothes dryer etc. on a battery. Not worth the money to replace with propane appliances. But I like you thinking...
 

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Hard to run my well pump, stove, hot water tank, electric clothes dryer etc. on a battery. Not worth the money to replace with propane appliances. But I like you thinking...
Yeah if hydro doesn't get your money, the gas guys do...bastards

I went through a model home that claimed it could go for 2-3 days on battery. Probably all 12v lighting, nat gas appliances etc. There was probably 2 dozen deep cycle batteries in the system. Some may have been for 12 V LED lighting, but some could be running series to up the voltage?

Tesla has some pretty cool batteries to power your home now. Technology is changing very quickly
 

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EFF hydro. Put solar panels on the roof and charge an electric forklift battery all day. No getting ripped off paying hydro for, or selling too them.
You'd probably want a gen set of some sort for those prolonged cloudy days. But it could be done.

I'd like to see more development in plug-in hybrids being used to backfeed a house during an outage - or as a secondary supply to a solar installation. Battery tech is getting to the point where this is more functional. Maintaining lead acid batteries is a PITA. VRLA's have not been very good after about 5 years but I think what Tesla and a few others have going on is the beginning of something good.

I've got a buddy that lives 'off the grid' up around PG. He says the two things he will never do with electricity is heat or cook. He uses wood exclusively for those two things and with the efficiency of LED's and electronics, his battery supply lasts quite a long time, even through the cloudy winter periods.
 

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You'd probably want a gen set of some sort for those prolonged cloudy days. But it could be done.

I'd like to see more development in plug-in hybrids being used to backfeed a house during an outage - or as a secondary supply to a solar installation. Battery tech is getting to the point where this is more functional. Maintaining lead acid batteries is a PITA. VRLA's have not been very good after about 5 years but I think what Tesla and a few others have going on is the beginning of something good.

I've got a buddy that lives 'off the grid' up around PG. He says the two things he will never do with electricity is heat or cook. He uses wood exclusively for those two things and with the efficiency of LED's and electronics, his battery supply lasts quite a long time, even through the cloudy winter periods.
I'd like to retire up north this way, but only with rocket mass stoves for better efficiency and less use of firewood.
The better half thinks not however
 
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