i definately dont agree that if a person wants a nice looking amp, theyre a poser. i guess only 'posers' buy new amps huh? i dont think so. i think looks are important but it actually depends. i would never buy an amp that is really beaten up looking. i dont mind small tears in tolex. i hate when grills are ripped or missing handles though. i like my amps looking nice but i really don't mind the odd rip and tear. hate cracks. when people say that a beaten up amp is reliable i don't think i can agree with that either. if you want a reliable amp, you buy one new. no used or vintage amp can really be really really reliable. can have great tone but you'll never know what will go wrong over time. everything can be repaired though so there's no major loss.