...problem is, most countries that manufacture the goods we buy have some repugnant skeletons in their closet.Well, made in China pretty much rules it out for me. It may be a good guitar but I cannot participate in the exploitation of slave labour. TG
I'm not going to get in a full blown discussion here, but there is nothing "quaint" about slave labour. People literally locked in factories, people found hostage in the basement, people who get no days off, people forced to work 24 hour shifts, none of this evokes a rewriting of Western history as a means of self-justiricatoinPut another way, many of the Chinese making this stuff are playing catch-up with North American consumer lifestyle standards... not that this is an entirely good thing for the planet, but that's another story. The fact is most of them are glad to have high-paying jobs which provide for bigger and better housing, more perks, better opportunities for their kids, etc. In short, doing stuff which sounds pretty familiar to most of us.
Calling it slave labour strikes me as quaint... that mindset hearkens back to the Cold War..
The fact that its hard to even buy clothes that are not made in China or Bangladesh is exactly why I won't buy a Chinese made guitar. There is still some choice in guitars and I don't want to play an active role in reducing it. This isn't about xenophobia or blaming foreign labour. It's about trying to help change/overcome the systems which create these conditions.Globalism's a b!tch. Check your shoes and other clothing items. Check your plastics, too. Gonna be a loooooooong list, man.
My intent wasn't to belittle or dismiss anyone, although I can see why people would read my post in that way. All I meant was that in an unstructured environment such as a BB, these debates quickly spin out of control, go on tangents, and nobody really ever truly assumes the burden of truth (i.e. there are a lot of "facts" thrown about).LOL
Okay, whatever - have it your way, but from here it merely sounds as if you are bragging that you're a university student and can hold up your end of a lively debate. Well, bully for you. But then you proceed to declare that this is neither the time nor the place for such a debate...
I suppose that, if you are to permit any further debate, I must enroll in a course as well? Will that establish sufficient cred?
Fine... okay! I get it - China = bad; Hagstroms made in China = bad. Kewl logic.