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Had a fun evening with some vintage guitars!

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Powdered Toast Man
A good friend of mine came over this evening and brought a couple of really amazing vintage guitars with him.


1967 Mustang (mine)
1966 Tele
1963 Strat

All three are incredible players! Needless to say a good time was had by all.
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mnfrancis
Nice lineup - Leo would be impressed
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Buzz
Good friend to have! How did the Mustang compare to the others?
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Latole
Wow !
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Griff
Tell us about the Vibroverb...?
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Powdered Toast Man
Buzz said:
Good friend to have! How did the Mustang compare to the others?
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It’s pretty consistent with them. They’re an incredible value for a vintage instrument that came off the same line as guitars costing 5-10x as much. I got mine refretted and serviced and it’s an amazing player.
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Griff said:
Tell us about the Vibroverb...?
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Sadly, not an original. A kit repro that I built myself.
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Derek_T
Nice line up, if I remember previous discussions you were skeptic about the vintage magic pixie dust. Did that session change your mind on the matter :) ?
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Derek_T said:
Nice line up, if I remember previous discussions you were skeptic about the vintage magic pixie dust. Did that session change your mind on the matter :) ?
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I don't want to insult or diminish anyone's ownership experience or purchases. Vintage guitars are an investment as much as an instrument so it's kind of a different animal. I'm 44 years old and this is the first time I've ever had extended time with any vintage instrument. Now that I've experienced that and had several Custom Shop examples in my hands, it's my opinion that they're nearly indistinguishable in terms of feel, playability, and sound. But, like I said, vintage is an investment/collector purchase as much as it is a guitar purchase. My CS61 plays amazing and it's REALLY close in feel to that '63 but it's not going to appreciate in value by thousands of dollars over time.
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Powdered Toast Man said:
I don't want to insult or diminish anyone's ownership experience or purchases. Vintage guitars are an investment as much as an instrument so it's kind of a different animal. I'm 44 years old and this is the first time I've ever had extended time with any vintage instrument. Now that I've experienced that and had several Custom Shop examples in my hands, it's my opinion that they're nearly indistinguishable in terms of feel, playability, and sound. But, like I said, vintage is an investment/collector purchase as much as it is a guitar purchase. My CS61 plays amazing and it's REALLY close in feel to that '63 but it's not going to appreciate in value by thousands of dollars over time.
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And I'll say it again. Contemporary builders are thoroughly capable of acquiring the skillset of builders from "the golden age" So long as the materials are still available, and there's nothing irreplaceable about the tools used, there should be no reason why someone building today, using the knowledge acquired from before, shouldn't be able to make an instrument every bit as good.

Where vintage instruments are often more unique or special seems to concern constellations of characteristics that are not currently made in the same configuration. So, for instance, a particular neck carve/width/radius, in conjunction with certain pickup properties, etc. I doubt anyone makes 300k pots anymore like Gibson used to use (though maybe they do, and I'm just out of the loop)

A longtime friend, and former bandmate, sold his '63 Strat a few years ago, because he wasn't playing it and figured someone else should.
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Powdered Toast Man said:
I don't want to insult or diminish anyone's ownership experience or purchases. Vintage guitars are an investment as much as an instrument so it's kind of a different animal. I'm 44 years old and this is the first time I've ever had extended time with any vintage instrument. Now that I've experienced that and had several Custom Shop examples in my hands, it's my opinion that they're nearly indistinguishable in terms of feel, playability, and sound. But, like I said, vintage is an investment/collector purchase as much as it is a guitar purchase. My CS61 plays amazing and it's REALLY close in feel to that '63 but it's not going to appreciate in value by thousands of dollars over time.
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I've spent considerable time with vintage strats and teles and own custom shop examples and I pretty much agree with what you said.
However when it comes to prewar Martins versus the best reissue that Martin currently builds (Authentic series) its a little different. Nothing I've come across currently built equals some of the prewars I've played. And the differences are more than subtle.
Never had my hands on a real 57\58\59 Les Paul but would love to.
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Powdered Toast Man said:
I don't want to insult or diminish anyone's ownership experience or purchases. Vintage guitars are an investment as much as an instrument so it's kind of a different animal. I'm 44 years old and this is the first time I've ever had extended time with any vintage instrument. Now that I've experienced that and had several Custom Shop examples in my hands, it's my opinion that they're nearly indistinguishable in terms of feel, playability, and sound. But, like I said, vintage is an investment/collector purchase as much as it is a guitar purchase. My CS61 plays amazing and it's REALLY close in feel to that '63 but it's not going to appreciate in value by thousands of dollars over time.
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Thanks, and to be clear, I was not trying to get you into insulting vintage gear. I don't have any problem with it, I was just curious to get some feedback from someone that is not trying to sell anything but just had fun with it.
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guitarman2 said:
I've spent considerable time with vintage strats and teles and own custom shop examples and I pretty much agree with what you said.
However when it comes to prewar Martins versus the best reissue that Martin currently builds (Authentic series) its a little different. Nothing I've come across currently built equals some of the prewars I've played. And the differences are more than subtle.\
Never had my hands on a real 57\58\59 Les Paul but would love to.
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Correct. When dealing with acoustic guitars, changes to the wood over time, and changes in the wood that is available over time, make a much bigger difference to the outcome than such things do for solid-body instruments.
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Powdered Toast Man said:
A good friend of mine came over this evening and brought a couple of really amazing vintage guitars with him.
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1967 Mustang (mine)
1966 Tele
1963 Strat

All three are incredible players! Needless to say a good time was had by all.
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If only those guitars could talk .... the players it had, the places they've been to 🤔🤘
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zontar
Buzz said:
Good friend to have! How did the Mustang compare to the others?
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I would probably enjoy playing the Mustang more than the others.
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