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Hi my name is Peter and I'm a newbie from Georgetown Ont. I'm thinking of buying a Marshall AVT150HX with the AVT412AHX cabinet , but wanted to know what other's were using and why?
 

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I use different ones for different stuff...

High gain / metal stuff (what I usually play) I use my Randall RG75G2 and I use this for practicing everyday as well... I'm buying a Randall RG50TC (Randall's all tube combo) soon too. Rock / anytime I go into the jammin' room I usually use my JCM800 w/ 1960 cab or my step dad's JCM900 w/ 1960 (I also use these when I feel like going deaf :eek: ).

On the note of your amp choice, I have a Marshall AVT50HX which I used to use to practice with (with a 1960) and it was OK... cleans were decent, nice and warm. Overdrive... warm, but sounded a bit fuzzy when you raised the gain up.

What's your total budget and what type of music are you looking to play? You could probably get a much better amp.

EDIT: Yikes, that's $1,149.98 + taxes if you're going new. Does it have to be a half stack? Like you could get like a Peavey 6505 combo for $100 more and it's much better. Or a used all-tube Marshall combo for less. They have speaker out as well, so if you decide you want the booming bass of a 4x12 later you can just plug it in lol.
 

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I would caution you NOT go get a halfstack. If you are getting it because you think you need the volume, and you play indoor venues, dont! You will kill the people in the first rows, while the back wont get much volume. Why not get a 2x12 or 1x12 and mic it? That way your sound will be much more balanced and you wont drown out your bandmates. It will also be more portable probably.

If I were you, look into some mesa boogie stuff. I did a lot of research recently into the mesa boogie lonestar special. It is selectable between 5/15/and 30 watts. Really handy for smaller venues as well as larger ones.

I currently have a halfstack, and I wish I had gotten a 2x12. I play weekly at a venue that seats over 400, and I still find my 50 watt halfstack a bit loud. Plus my bandmates dont exactly like a blaring halfstack near them.
 

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Yep I agree with everything that's been said here, a half stack is very unpractical and probably overkill. If you're intending to play big venues, then you're most likely going to be miced anyways. Besides that, the AVT150x isn't a very good amp for the price, much better amps can be had within the price range. A Peavey ValveKing or a Traynor YCV50 might be a better choice, they're both cheaper than buying a AVT half stack not to mention they have much better tone and are much easier to lug around while still providing a lot of volume. They can be tweaked to sound Marshally, since I'm guessing that that's the tone that you're looking for.
 

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as others have said above, although 1/2 stacks are very cool, they are pretty impractical. A good combo will make your like a lot easier.
 

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I would advice against a 2x12 combo. Those suckers are heavey.
I myself have gone the route of a head with two 2x12 cabs. Two cabs are overkill for the type of venues I play, but it looks cool. For a really small place I'll just take one cabinet with me. Its very easy to transport as well. I drive a G35 coupe with virtually no trunk space but I can get my amp and cab in there no problem.
 

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Thanks for your opinions! presently I'm playing a Fender Strat + Epiphone Les Paul through a Digital RP50 processor into a 200 watt "Kustom" sound system. We play in church and outdoor concerts, I guess way back in my day (now 50) bigger was better ha! ha! I'll check out the amps you suggested. Budget is $1,200

Thanks!.....Peter
 

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Thanks for your opinions! presently I'm playing a Fender Strat + Epiphone Les Paul through a Digital RP50 processor into a 200 watt "Kustom" sound system. We play in church and outdoor concerts, I guess way back in my day (now 50) bigger was better ha! ha! I'll check out the amps you suggested. Budget is $1,200

Thanks!.....Peter
$1,200 is a pretty good budget... I'm gonna say check out the Laney VC30, Peavey Classic 30 (go for $400 used... if you can find one you'd have enough cash left to get a good 2x12 too) and check locally for some used Marshalls.

Lots of great combos in that range, especially if you go used.
 

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$1,200 is a pretty good budget... I'm gonna say check out the Laney VC30, Peavey Classic 30 (go for $400 used... if you can find one you'd have enough cash left to get a good 2x12 too) and check locally for some used Marshalls.

Lots of great combos in that range, especially if you go used.
I play in a church too :)

Even hillsong's guitarists dont use halfstacks to my knowlege. Im pretty sure nigel was using an AC30 2x12...and that church is like a stadium man. Miced is the way to go now adays.
 

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Take a serious look at the Peavey Windsor. Even though I am not much of a peavey guitar amp fan, the Windsor and the ValveKings are very good amps, very reasonable prices and are tube.
 

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I play in a church too :)
What kind of music do you play in a church? Not a religious man so I have no idea, lol only time I've been near one was for weddings I've attended.

I don't have the slightest clue where Georgetown is, lol but if you're interested Songbird has a JCM800 2x12 combo for $999 and I'm sure they'll ship it.

http://songbirdmusic.com/product_details.asp?id=22377

50 watts all tube + 2 12 inch speakers = loouuud. But if you can find a Laney (only their all-tube ones though, their solid state ones aren't too great IMO) locally definetly try one out... it's like a mix of modern and Marshall tones. Very, very nice.
 

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sounds like you want a mesa boogie stilletto ace combo.

dont get that marshall, it's not that great. also look at:

orange rockerverb 30? dunno if that'd be in your budget... stupid euro..
traynor YCV50
laney VC30
Peavey classic 50

and that's all i can think of right now :)
 

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What kind of music do you play in a church? Not a religious man so I have

no idea, lol only time I've been near one was for weddings I've attended.

I cover a lot of stuff actually. For Sunday mornings (with lots of adults) we do a lot of praise and worship, and even hymns!

For Fridays with the youth we do stuff like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NuRMpYGcBqI

to stuff like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1FmgoG7pRo

and lots in between...

my favorite stuff is by this band...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RUDDr5vuPy8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdZ0gyRQ2c

and this band:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oVcdB4ObMGE

man I love this song to throw some classic rock licks in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=O3Bqlea5RLg :p

so you can see how versatile my setup has to be...I HAVE to have a 2 channel amp at least, and several effects. Its not exactly easy lol, but yeah its fun.
 

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gotta love those moments eh? :p

fx - boss ME-50
amp - mesa stiletto ace

you'd be SET!
 

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Unless you're a single effect pedal and all-tube freak, that would totally work lol I loves me some tubes and effects.

That said I kind of got "stuck" with a POD XT Live... bought it for a friends birthday and it turns out his effin' parents bought him one too. No big deal though, gave him a $150 instead. Well, I guess I shouldn't say "stuck" 'cause it's not a terrible thing to have.

Long story short, I've decided to use it for silent recording. Great for night time... tried it through the PA and it was decent, but you could tell the difference between the all-tube and the POD (mainly the way it reacted to my picking / finger dynamics). But yeah, lots of fun sounds in the PODXTL. I'm sure the ME-50 is a lot like it.
 

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im fairly sure the ME-50 doesnt model amps, which i believe the POD's do.

XTL should sound pretty snazzy with a tube power amp pushing even a 112 (peavey 50/50 power amp maybe?)
 

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I wouldn't suggest a multi-effect pedal with a tube amp, just one of those tone sucking things. Go single effect boxes.

As for amps. I wouldn't suggest the AVT,, and I wouldn't suggest a halfstack.

a 2x12 cab or combo would be just fine. If you can find a Peavey classic 50 used that would be really nice. They sound good. For cabs check out Avatar.

http://www.steamcomusic.com/avatar/index.html

Also make sure you go ot the store and try as many amps as possible with your own guitar, or one similar. Do not look at brand names, and if your using a tube amp, Note that they sound better louder.
 

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im fairly sure the ME-50 doesnt model amps, which i believe the POD's do.

XTL should sound pretty snazzy with a tube power amp pushing even a 112 (peavey 50/50 power amp maybe?)
Oh yeah, duh, I was thinking about the GT line of Boss stuff.

Those Tonelab clips sound pretty similar to what I could get out of the POD (with a lot more thickness to it, of course due to the quality of the recording it kind of lacks some) through my step dad's PA... the crunch one especially, with the JCM 800 model selected and a tube screamer for a bit more overdrive on the leads.

Still prefer the real deal though... I have the advantage of having 2 all-tube Marshall stacks sitting beside the modeller so I got the chance to hear the difference first hand! If you're on a budget (or have a bad back!), go for a modeller. If not, go for somethin' better.

Anywho, we're gettin' a bit off topic aren't we? Haha, since the OP doesn't have a small budget he's got a TON of amazing options. Let's know what you end up with.
 
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