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This is a beautiful guitar, no doubt about it. It does have one flaw though, causing me not to order one. It's at the bottom of the spec listing.


Neck
Wood Species: Mahogany
Pieces: 1

Details
Truss Rod: Single Action
Profile: Round
Thickness at Fret 1: 2.07cm / .815"
Other Materials: Franklin Titebond 50, hot hide glue neck joint
Average Weight: .413kg / .911lb

Peg Head
Type: CF-100
Inlay: MOP
Logo: MOP Gibson Block and Crown
Headstock Angle: 17 degrees
Tonal, Resonant, and/or Technical Effect: Compound Dovetail neck joint for resonance distribution throughout guitar

Neck Fit
Joint Angle: 3 degrees
Type: Compound Dovetail
Adhesive: Hot hide glue
Gauges Used: Short Scale Pitch Gauge, Rule
Nut
Material: Bone
Width: 4.38 cm / 1.725"
Slots: E: 0.053
A: 0.042
D: 0.032
G: 0.024
B: 0.016
e: 0.012

Fingerboard
Wood Species: Rosewood
Pieces: 1

Fingerboard Details
Radius: 30.48 cm / 12 "
Frets: 20
Nut/End of Board: 4.38cm / 1.725" @ nut, 5.70cm / 2.25" @ end of board
Scale: 62.865cm / 24.75"
Binding: Single Ply Cream
Side Dots (Color): Black

Fingerboard Inlays
Style: Paralellogram
Material: Mother of Pearl
Average Weight: 118.38gr / 4.176oz
Price: $5400.00 CDN







 

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Hey @vadsy does this shock you?
 
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I have thought about the Epiphone one. Do you know the difference in the two?
 

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I know there is not $5000.00 difference between the two guitars but there has got to be a few things, like the quality of the wood, tuners, etc. I would like to try them side by side. I knew about the Hummingbird when I was a kid. My brother drove a stock car named after that guitar.
 

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Hey @vadsy does this shock you?
As usual, I am appalled but a tad busy so I wasn't quick on the draw. Thanks for the heads up.

It looks like Steadly woke up today wanting to slag Gibson in any way he could and since his first thread failed I'm guessing this is a nice passive aggressive followup.

ps- in all seriousness I don't care but I like participating and contributing
 

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It seems you've come a long way. Congrats.
Not really. I have always liked some of the Gibson acoustics. I still feel the same way about their electric lineup and their marketing ploys.

Their highest price acoustic is around $6500.00 USD while their most expensive solid body electric is in the $12,000.00 range. I think there is more labour in making a top acoustic than an electric and even if you add in the few extra parts, it doesn't add up to an extra $6000.00 USD. For the guy that understands this and still pays, that's fine; blow your brains out but for the little guy saving his nickels and gets taken in by this type of marketing, I feel sorry them.

However, I recognize they are not the only shady marketers in the business world, just one of the worst that I know of. So, now what do you think of my opinion? Have I gone up or down in your estimation?:)
 
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I'm always hesitant to make comments like this because I love guitars...except thrasher, hockey stick guitars - I don't like them ;-). I'm far from a Gibson hater, and would love to own a couple, but even more so than the electrics, the Gibson acoustics are so hit and miss I'd have trouble parting with my money for one. My cousin owns a Songwriter Deluxe cutaway that's one of the best sounding acoustics I've played - Gibson or otherwise - but for every great sounding one I've tried, there are 10 I wouldn't trade my old Fender La Brea for.
 

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I'm always hesitant to make comments like this because I love guitars...except thrasher, hockey stick guitars - I don't like them ;-). I'm far from a Gibson hater, and would love to own a couple, but even more so than the electrics, the Gibson acoustics are so hit and miss I'd have trouble parting with my money for one. My cousin owns a Songwriter Deluxe cutaway that's one of the best sounding acoustics I've played - Gibson or otherwise - but for every great sounding one I've tried, there are 10 I wouldn't trade my old Fender La Brea for.
I have heard the same stories and some of them are undoubtedly true. However, I have asked people who have had negative results with acoustics and when pressed for details about new strings or old, tuning, setup, etc, etc., I have often got vague replies to my questions. I have found you have to take a lot of feedback with a grain of salt.

On the other hand, you must have gotten a very good Fender. Congrats on finding one you love.
 

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Not good at all, actually - that should give you some idea.

Honestly, I've never played a such inconsistent brand - Boucher and Richards were both inconsistent across models, but not as frequently as Gibsons. I've played many Gibsons with new strings that simply did not resonate - factory set-ups. Don't get me wrong - I've played some amazing Gibson acoustics that I would have bought had I the disposable income (that includes a Hummingbird I tried in a shop in Edmonton).

My Fender is kept out of sentimentality ;-)
 
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No, I mean that you actually want to judge a guitar by playing it rather than just be reading the spec sheets.
You've been misled, m'boy. I always play a guitar I plan on buying. I do check the specs first though to see if it's going to be playable for me. The first thing I check is the neck width. If it's too narrow, I just move on. If it's okay, then I go onto the next item and so on and so on. It's a bit like buying a car. You know what you want so you look for something with those specs and then you go and give it a test drive or two before making up your mind.
 

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You've been misled, m'boy. I always play a guitar I plan on buying. I do check the specs first though to see if it's going to be playable for me. The first thing I check is the neck width. If it's too narrow, I just move on. If it's okay, then I go onto the next item and so on and so on. It's a bit like buying a car. You know what you want so you look for something with those specs and then you go and give it a test drive or two before making up your mind.
You take too long to get to the 'test drive' and imma say it again, although its been said here before, I don't think you actually play guitar.
 

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I've been in the fortunate minority I guess - every Gibson I've owned (well, all three) are exceptional instruments. Two I bought sight-unseen.
 

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I'm always hesitant to make comments like this because I love guitars...except thrasher, hockey stick guitars - I don't like them ;-). I'm far from a Gibson hater, and would love to own a couple, but even more so than the electrics, the Gibson acoustics are so hit and miss I'd have trouble parting with my money for one. My cousin owns a Songwriter Deluxe cutaway that's one of the best sounding acoustics I've played - Gibson or otherwise - but for every great sounding one I've tried, there are 10 I wouldn't trade my old Fender La Brea for.
I have a friend that owns an older cutaway songwriter as well and I think its an amazing sounding and playing guitar. And I don't have much love for Gibson acoustics.
 

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DO SOME RESEARCH!!!

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I think that's what he's attempting here.

I own a Gibson WM-45 , think J-45 with less bling. Sounds great, plays great. Always babied. Recently needed to get the braces all reglued. I do maintain and hydrate properly.

I owned a non pickup Epi hummingbird, sold it when I didn't have space. Was a good guitar. I will probably buy another but with a pickup built in.

Playability I believe is equal. Quality consistency on Asian Epis is pretty good right now, but play them first to make sure. I believe fit and finish is better on Asian jobs. Obviously the finishes are different, but not necessarily better or worse. I don't think the Epi is made with all solid wood, but rather a laminate side and back with solid top.

Greg Keelor plays an Epi hummingbird. Probably an old one based off the wear.
 
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