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You can get them cheaper from Ishabashi. He charges in Yen as well, not USD like Katana does on eBay. The conversion from Canadian $ to Yen is better than USD to Canadian $.

I have been considering getting one of the Les Paul Specials. They are more true to an original Les Paul Special than anything Gibson currently makes. The last Reissue Gibson did didn't even have P-90's (had P-100's). But ya, all the Edwards guitars look amazing.

Unfortunatly the taxes and duty do add up. There is %15 duty on Japanese guitars from what I have been told. Then there is %15 tax on top of that. So %30 of a $600 (Ishabashi prices) guitar, AND $125 shipping is a fair bit of cash. Roughy $300 in extra fees.

And also, EMS's Canadian shipper when the package arrives here is not Canada Post. It's one of the couriers.
 

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That is one area where I am not clear. If you pay $125 for Fedex shipping, that includes the brokerage fee. I don't know what happens when they ship EMS, then a courier takes over here. While there is a language barrier dealing with Ishabashi, it's even worse with Katana. Trying to figure out that info is a little tough. That is a key reason I haven't actually bought one yet.
 

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Sneaky, the Special I am looking at is from their "laquered taste" line, so it's a nitro top, long neck tenon etc. As I said, the specs look better than anything Gibson is offering right now.

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/original/E-LS-85LT.html

But again, it's a real unknown what the fees are going to be when it arrives if I order it. Is there any way you could find out what your relatives have paid apon arrival for us?

I have no clue where to find these used. I checked Ishabashi's site but no luck. There are Edwards, but the Special I want seems harder to find.
 

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sneaky, I emailed them awhile ago and they can get it. And their price including shipping is about $75 less than Katana. As I said the only that concerns me is the shipping.

See, I ordered a CIJ Tele once and I WAS charged duty and taxes on top of the shipping costs when it arrived here.

They have a pretty neat double cut Special that I think looks great as well. The only 'problem' is it comes with a tune-o-matic while there normal Special has the wrap-around. If the double cut had the wrap around as well it would be perfect.

You were mentioining the DUncan pickups. I had the same Duncan SP-90's in a Godin I owned and they are pretty nice pickups. A little different sounding than some P-90's, but I also found them a little quieter.

Those edwards Teles and 335's are BEAUTIFUL looking guitars as well.
 

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I have done plenty of importing, so I do know the routine. But, brokerage has been included in any large Fedex and UPS transactions I have done for amps and guitars. Which is why shipping has been around $100 instead of $50. That does not include taxes usually, but it does cover duty (which is why it's a brokerage fee). Example: I have bought a guitar from rondomusic.net, and when you check out it gives you the breakdown of the shipping AND duty. You pay it up front, and not when the item arrives. Any seller that uses a broker can do this.

However importing from Japan is more of an unknown. Katana uses EMS, which transfers the shipment to a courier when it gets here. I don't know what Ishabashi uses, and I am emailing them right now. I will likely go through Ishabashi if I do the transaction just becase their prices are bit better, and they are much easier to communicate with.
 

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Benee Wafers said:
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For sure you've got two amounts to pay.. Duty and Brokerage Fees.
The duty is what you have to pay the government and the Brokerage Fee is what the broker charges for doing the Canada Customs entry.If you're in a province with Sales Tax you will have to pay that as well.
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When you get your UPS or Fedex reciept, you are not going to see any mention of "duty" charges on it. It's all one charge listed as 'brokerage'. Yes they are 2 different fees, but the brokerage fee they charge relates to all those fees.

But again, I have dealt with a few online retailers who use brokers. You pay the fees before the item is shipped, and you only pay the taxes when it arrives here. You don't get as much of a shock from the fees. I have no clue if either of the Japanese retailers we talk about have this included in the $125 shipping charge though is what the issue is. It's basically the different between paying %30 extra when it arrives here, or paying %15 (just taxes) extra when it arrives here.
 

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Ok I got some more info here.

A guy at another forum I use knows a broker, so he got me some info. The duty on a Japanese guitar coming into Canada is 6%. The combined taxes are %15 and I am pretty sure both have to be paid.

So the only 'unknown fee' is the couriers brokerage fee. Katana uses EMS which hands it over to Purolator in Canada and from what I hear Purolators fees pretty reasonable. However, I have no idea what Ishibashi uses. If they use UPS or Fedex, you can be sure to get screwed for a bunch of extra brokerage fees.

So the guitar I want is 82,000 Yen shipping included from Ishibashi. That comes out to $791 Canadian. That is more than $100 cheaper than Katana. I estimate $166 extra would be due (the %21 calculated above) on the guitar once it got here in duty and taxes. So I'd be looking at $957, and again the courier fees are unknown.

I am starting to think I could find an actual Gibson LP Special for cheaper even though the 90's RI's are popular right now. If I did have to ship it, there would be no duty on it since it's made in the US anyway.
 

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Ya but there would be no duty on a US made guitar. And the shipping would be 1/3 of getting a guitar shipped from Japan. Here is the breakdown:

Edwards from Japan - %6 duty + %15 GST and PST + $125 (and for Katana, that is $125 USD) shipping, + possible courier brokerage fees

Gibson from US - No duty on US made Gibsons, %15 GST + PST, about $50 shipping, and if you use USPS a $5 brokerage fee.

I have actually bought 2 used Made In Usa guitars (one a Gibson Melody Maker), had them shipped from the States, and not even been charged taxes when they have been delivered as well. This isn't 'the norm' but it does happen.

There is no 'fee to collect' unless you get it shipped UPS or Fedex. Then you will pay their 'brokerage fee'. But the normal 'fee' is Duty. With NAFTA, we don't pay duty on US made items.
 

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I guess the one thing that's got me worried is, if I don't like the guitar I am really screwed. Importing a used Gibson (like I have done before), I know if I don't like it I can at a minimum get the money back reselling it (and maybe even make some money if I got a good deal). With the Edwards, I think I'd take a real beating on it trying to resell it if I didn't like it. I have read reviews on plenty of forums I use and have no doubt they are high quality guitars.
 
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