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So long story short, a guy wants to trade a PRS McCarty for my LP Traditional on local kijiji
We go back and forth about price compensation, then we agree on a deal (his price, actually)
I head to his place because he doesn't have a car. His PRS is in pretty good shape, but my LP isn't up to his standards. Fine, I head back to my car as I have other business to attend to. Buy a couple of sweet pedals, then head back home, and see this:

TRADE: PRS Ted McCarty Soapbar (10-Top/Birds) | guitares | Ville de Montréal | Kijiji

EDIT: The rant has been removed, but see below for a "transcript"

So what basically was a non-transaction because of some guitar wear turns into a giant shitstorm.
I have to point out most of the information in this rant of his are lies (angry troll lies, I'll say)
 

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Wow...so how bad was your LP??? Did you tie it to your bumper on the way there????

P.S. Kijiji Montreal is dead.....dead like dead has never been dead before. Not one single ad in a thousand is worth a reply. Very sad...I met lots of great musicians and sold and traded tons of gear.
Now?? Dead!! Literally not one single decent seller/player left. Nothing but dreamers and scammers. Wanna pay 1800$ for a Greco? Kijiji Montreal!!! Wanna pay triple Reverb/eBay?? Kijiji Montreal. I have no idea how it happened or why these idiots think their stuff is worth double market value.
Anyways, move on and forget about it.
 

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Here are pics that were posted in my add
Some of the scuffs aren't as visible as they should be, but still... not "the most beat up instrument" as he described it (ridiculous)
The amber top hat knobs were there when I got the guitar. I put gold speed knobs on there, because that's what Trads usually have
Guess he didn't want it being original
The other part he's talking about in his rant is the jack plate, which is metal (and not plastic) on Trads AFAIK
EDIT: Seems like they've started putting plastic jack plates on Trads in 2015
 

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What he said:

***RANT***

So I said no to an other Kijiji user tonight (06/07/17). It's the first time I've done that in about 25 years of buying/selling/trading.

I should have listen to my guts from the get go.

It was a bit weird that we couldn't meet in the Old Montreal to do the trade. He explained that it's his "work" address that appeared with his ad. In fact, he doesn't live on the Island. I ask for his phone number in an email, he replied that he doesn't own a cellphone. I did find it unusual that he removed his ad after we got in touch and started talking. Before that, I did notice that he had lots of gear to unload, at least 6 items (several guitars, amps, parts).

So we are closing in on the last details of the deal and he say's he'll come to my place. I told him to bring two of is guitars cos I was entertaining an other one he was advertising and I was ready to add cash (we had already established trades details for both).

He said no, that it was no longer for sale... but the ad is still up on Kijiji as I'm writing this. He then propose a third guitar via an hyperlink. I'm not interested but it's from a second Kijiji account that he owns with a different address and 7 different items.

Hum... I tell myself that if the item is as described, I'm gonna through with this if the vibe is good (as in "This guitar didn't fall from a truck.").

Long story short, he's half an hour late but takes the time to send me an SMS 5 minutes before getting to my place. Classy dude.

Get here, says Hi and: "My wife is waiting in the car, we'll have to do this quick." The case of my future pride and joy is severely beat up, not what I had expected.

So we settle down at my pad and he check my PRS and says something like "Looks like a new one!". I'm still bothered by the beat up case, I open it and pick up the axe.

I've never own an instrument that beat up. Never.

At first, I tell myself that this guitar is a "player". Nothing wrong with that but it doesn't match the pictures from his way too quickly vanishing original ad that caught my eyes.

We are not talking about hairlines or swirls, we are talking about dents... through the finish. You can actually see the wood.

Headstock, neck, top, back, hardware, binding... even half the knobs are cracked.

Funny thing about the knobs, he switch the ones from the model I wanted to buy with the instrument that is now "no longer for sale" but still on Kijiji. He even switched the pickguard.

I know that for sure cos I always download the pictures from an instrument that I'm considering making a move on.

I point out that this is not "Exceptional Condition", he says I won't hear the scratches (...probably not but, the value just took a dive).

I ask him about a part that I believe wasn't featured on that year (and I'm not talking about the effing knobs). He says I'm wrong, that this part is always made like that, whatever the year (not my first guitar...).

Well, that was it.

This guy was arrogant, spewing lies after lies to reach his goal.

I sold and bought lots of gear on Kijiji and every customer were more than satisfied with what they bought and traded. If we lnow each other, I'll give you all the infos I got on him down to the car he was driving.

Sorry for the long rant but, these kinda guys are the worst. I did hear some horror stories but today, I've let my guard down.

If you read through all this, let me know and make me your best cash offer and I guarantee you that'll try to make it work.

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So, here's your usual description:

Mostly looking to trade for a Gibson Les Paul Standard or Traditional (2013 or, earlier). Might entertain some Fender Stratocaster.

$2,750.00 OBRO


Emerald green translucent finish Paul Reed Smith McSoapy with 10 Top curly maple carved cap, abalone birds markers, mahogany body and neck, rosewood fingerboard, OHSC, keys, tools, documentation, papers,...

Solid 9.5+/10 condition. New strings, great low-action set-up.

Thanks for looking!


TAGS : Anderson, Fender, Custom Shop, Gibson, Gretsch, Guild, Les Paul, Martin, PRS, Suhr, Strymon, ZVEX
 

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Hang on. Is it the other guy's post who has tagged a PRS with all that other stuff (Anderson, Gibson, Fender...)? If so, then I have a rant for him!
It was the other guy's ad from Kijiji above. Including his rant.

Hey @Business, can we see the "most beat up case"?? (I may need to redefine my 8/10 players condition!) ha!

Oh, and there are reasons they are called "Kijidiot's"…just sayin'!

Sent from my other brain.
 

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So...

In his rant, he says you removed your ads and have no cellphone, then say your gear is still listed, then talks about sms.


Do I follow correctly?


Ranting on a kijiji ad is like complaining about airplane ticket price at the bus company. Nobody cares and he looks like a buffoon.

The rant has been taken down. We sadly can't see who it was all about
 

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So....

The rant has been taken down. We sadly can't see who it was all about
Wow, he was quick to pull it! Was up 1/2hr ago…


Sent from my other brain.
 
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So...

In his rant, he says you removed your ads and have no cellphone, then say your gear is still listed, then talks about sms.

Do I follow correctly?
The guy was getting confused with another guitar I posted (I said I'd rather sell that one and not trade it)
I did pull my add down because I wanted to take pictures of the guitar with the correct knobs (I'll also take pictures of the "severely beat up case" for the heck of it)

Concerning the cellphone, I don't own one. I did SMS him from my wife's work cellphone. Said I'd be there at 7:15 -ish, texted him at 7:20 because I was stuck in traffic and got there at 7:25
 
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So here are pictures with the correct knobs, also included a picture of my "severely beat up case". Note the 3 tiny vinyl tears... unacceptable
Oh jeez, what a piece of garbage!
You do have a lot of nerve passing that off as a player. ;)
 

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Your pictures still aren't good enough. Are there marks ANYWHERE on the headstock? Are there indeed cracked knobs? Detail shots of the scuffs?

Did I read it right that the knobs were changed out between when pics were taken and when you showed at his door? This isn't as egregious, but over on talkbass yesterday a guy was banned for changing out hardware before he shipped a bass. It's serious.

I wouldn't have posted a rant, but I get the sense that I'd have been showing you the door in a hurry.
 

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I do have detailed shots of the scuffs that I had previously taken. I'll take the blame for not taking the time to send them to him
I must have taken 15 minutes of his time for that meeting (less than it took him to write that rant, probably)
 

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Here are pics that were posted in my add
Some of the scuffs aren't as visible as they should be, but still... not "the most beat up instrument" as he described it (ridiculous)
The amber top hat knobs were there when I got the guitar. I put gold speed knobs on there, because that's what Trads usually have
Guess he didn't want it being original
The other part he's talking about in his rant is the jack plate, which is metal (and not plastic) on Trads AFAIK
EDIT: Seems like they've started putting plastic jack plates on Trads in 2015
They used plastic jackplates in 2015, then in 2016 they switched back to metal, FYI.

His reaction may have been somewhat extreme, but I think he has a couple of legitimate grievances with the non-detailed photos and the knob switch. I don't know if his rant is overkill, but I'd be put out if you showed up with the guitar with different hardware than in your ad and photos. From his perspective, I can see why he would think it was a bit shady not to show dings and to switch the knobs. When dealing online, full disclosure is better, even if you think something's minor.

As to his PRS ad, I don't think he's gonna get $2750 for a used McCarty. Even with the 10-top and the soapbars, that's high.
 

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He'll be lucky to get $1800 for a mccarty imo.
 
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People on Kijiji are "specials" for the least!
I had some bad experiences over the year.
I don't know if it is only in Mtl though.

On the other hand, I have done business with @Business (no pun intended) 2 or 3 times and you where really nice to me and a great guy overall.
Don't worry, some Kijidiots don't worth it!
 
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