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The WWE propeganda machine is working wonders. Its job is to make sure everyone thinks he was as asshole, and dismiss the whole thing. How about we actually try to think this time rather than dismiss things, and simplify them. If they can prove that steroids led to psychosis, it will have huge rammifications. And to respond to WWE propeganda, psychosis is very different from roid rage, which is why you dont see any evidense of a rage. I'd love to see Vince brought down, and you can see he is scared of that very scenerio.............
 
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*shrug*

Poor woman and child...

One less wrestler.... can't say that bothers me negatively
 

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What scares me is that apparently he possibly waited as much as 1 day before killing himself. That's just awful, contemplating to continue living after murdering his own wife and son...
That could easily be explained as well as the rest if he was in a state of psychosis. In that state a person could go on for years without residing in the real world. You pump enough steroids and pain killers, and its just a matter of time before the brain chemistry becomes so out of whack that you start living in another plain of existance. Of course the WWE will present another side............
 
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"Are you married?"
Happily.

"You must be a real pleasure to be around on a daily basis."
I am when I'm around people who don't think that the whole world has to think and feel exactly the way they do about every little thing that happens.... When I encounter people like that, any discomfort generated is all theirs. I don't let that bother me either.
 

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Another alarming thing is people seem to be quick to blame the roids, but after all the man did murder his wife and son... And he was responsible for his own act of taking steroids in the first place. This whole thing is really regrettable.
 
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"you seem to hold everyone and everything in utter contempt"
You can be forgiven your misunderstanding, given what little you 'see' about me through an internet forum... What could possibly be seen as contemptible about helping a fellow forum member name a piece of art? Or casting votes that a forum member band might win a pretty big gig??? I suspect selective vision might be more a factor than my attitudes.

"do you honestly wish that more wrestlers would die? "
And just where exactly did I even say that?!?! I didn't... You're projecting your own insecurities onto my opinion....


"You need help"
Ya... coming from you, I'll certainly take THAT to heart.... No.... really....
 

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"you seem to hold everyone and everything in utter contempt"
You can be forgiven your misunderstanding, given what little you 'see' about me through an internet forum... What could possibly be seen as contemptible about helping a fellow forum member name a piece of art? Or casting votes that a forum member band might win a pretty big gig??? I suspect selective vision might be more a factor than my attitudes.
"do you honestly wish that more wrestlers would die? "
And just where exactly did I even say that?!?! I didn't... You're projecting your own insecurities onto my opinion....
"You need help"
Ya... coming from you, I'll certainly take THAT to heart.... No.... really....

...there's a reason why many of us have a specific perception of you, clint ole buddy:

" 'Nothing but flakes' sure seems to describe the internet as a whole........"

there's a word for that kind of negative attitude, but i can't think of it at the moment.

anyway, no biggie, my friend. for the record, for the sake of clarification, food for introspection, and all that. no need to get your feathers ruffled.

-your hippie dippie commy pinko decidedly unmanly socialist wet girls blouse wimp friend from canada:smilie_flagge17:
 

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The WWE propeganda machine is working wonders. Its job is to make sure everyone thinks he was as asshole, and dismiss the whole thing. How about we actually try to think this time rather than dismiss things, and simplify them. If they can prove that steroids led to psychosis, it will have huge rammifications. And to respond to WWE propeganda, psychosis is very different from roid rage, which is why you dont see any evidense of a rage. I'd love to see Vince brought down, and you can see he is scared of that very scenerio.............
I'll admit I haven't heard everything yet, but what did the WWE do? They do a really badly mistimed tribute show BEFORE the full story came out about what happened. That was well meaning, but once the details came out they had to issue an apology and distance themselves from it. What else could they do?

Also, the wife had filed for divorce and listed that she feared for her children from what I have read so far. So maybe he was an 'asshole'?
 

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More details are coming about the Chris Benoit murder-suicide. He apparently sent five text messages early Sunday morning between 3:53 AM and 3:58 AM to WWE co-workers before committing suicide, even sending some from his dead wife's cell phone. According to the WWE, the five text messages were:

(sent 6/24 at 3:53 a.m.) - Chris Benoit’s cell phone

“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

(sent 6/24 at 3:53 a.m.) - Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”

(sent 6/24 at 3:54 a.m.) - Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

(sent 6/24 at 3:55 a.m.) - Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"

(sent 6/24 at 3:58 a.m.) - Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

The WWE is also dismissing any suggestions of 'roid rage' since Benoit was deliberate with the murders and left Bibles at the feet of his wife and son after killing them. A rep for the WWE says:

"The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage."
That's the latest bit I found... and this: http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/detailedbenoittimeline

Dunno how long that stuff has been up, just found it on a site I go on.

I see the "funny" pictures have already begun: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/ShaneFalco/Random/Deadoit.jpg
 

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Notice how alot of the information coming out is being released by WWE attorneys. They are choosing bits and pieces and feeding it to the media. I especially love how they are pushing the not roids because it doesnt look like roid rage. I would say they are pretty nervous, just like they are everytime they are close to being investigated............
 

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This is not info from the WWE. The latest update I just saw on CNN is that he was forcing his son (who was like 7) to take human growth hormone. And had a history of assaulting his wife and abusing pain killers.

It's tragic but he was a headcase. The WWE does not need to 'feed' anyone any information. It's just a lot of info that was kept buried till something went horribly wrong.
 

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This is not info from the WWE. The latest update I just saw on CNN is that he was forcing his son (who was like 7) to take human growth hormone. And had a history of assaulting his wife and abusing pain killers.

It's tragic but he was a headcase. The WWE does not need to 'feed' anyone any information. It's just a lot of info that was kept buried till something went horribly wrong.
True story... I'd just like to add:

Bob Ryder at 1wrestling.com recently spoke with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit, there were apparently warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit. One person who wanted to remain nameless said:

"This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them."

“Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked.”

In addition to this 1wrestling.com also learned that Nancy Benoit had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages. She set it up that if anything should happen to her, authorities would be able to check the box.
 

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This is very sad. Bret Hart was on The Team 1040 or one of those sports shows in Vancouver by phone talking about him and all that.

I wasnt much of a Chris Benoit fan since he was mostley on WCW and Smackdown. That is kind of like messed up what happend to his family and himself...but none the less he was pretty cool. R.I.P
 

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The overall issue is the guy killed a woman and a helpless child, then killed himself. And he apprently abused the wife and the child. What the WWE has to say about it is such a small issue in the grand scheme of things. And there is definitely no way I will wish someone like that will R.I.P. They were choices he made.
 

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Well you'd make a great prosecutor. A crappy one will look at all evidence and angles and try to piece together causes and try to prevent similar tragedies from happening again. A great prosecuter assumes that the guy was simply an asshole and ignores all other evidence. This is because its more important to dismiss things than look for causes. For instance, it was great that the Ontario prosecuter assumed Paul Bernardo was simply an asshole, and cut a deal with Karla to make sure the case would close real fast and they could wrap things up. Another great procecuter was the guy who went ot OJs with the set assumption that there was an intruder and ignored all the evidence to the contrary, and made sure that case would end the way it did. Its a good thing to ignore and dismiss. Its bad to look into things to find causes. You have a great future in Justice, please consider it as a carreer........
 
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Exactly the kind of non-inflammatory post one aughta expect from a Mod....
Who ever said anyone here was or wanted to be a prosecutor???

"he apprently abused the wife and the child."
Then death is too good for him.
 
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