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hi, i would like to know what noise gate would be the best. I like to play in distortion but my amp always make a death feedback (really hurt my ears) and then one of my friend showed me a deluxe big muff fuzz pedal and it had a noise gate on it, the feedback was gone. Unfortunately, i dont have a really big budget, only around 75-100$ So, what do you suggest?
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If you put your guitar close to the speaker it's going to feed back. I think you are suffering from poor technique as much as 60 cycle hum.
Huh? I don't get it?
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High gain and close proximity to the amp will cause feedback. Ever notice high gain players on YouTube pedal demos and lessons immediately turn the guitar volume off as soon as they stop playing?

When you put the guitar near the amp with high gain it will squeal like a pig.

I would lower the volume of the signal in the effects and increase the amp volume. Sounds like your signal is too hot.
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The VoxVT20+ is 20 watts. Not a super loud amp. If you crank the amp it is probable going past it's limit. Solid state amps aren't as loud as tube amps. A 20 watt solid state is not as loud as a Fender Deluxe usually in my experience. You might need a much bigger amp to get performance volume without the amp going haywire.
Don't have your amp behind or in front of you, have it on the side.
A gate can help with feedback when playing in high gain situations; it is literally like an auto volume cut when you stop playing (and auto on again when you start). If that's the issue.
Sounds to me like you are describing microphonic feedback- is it a very high pitched squeal that happens even if you use your hands to mute the strings (place your hand on them to prevent the strings from vibrating)?
The suggestion about possible microphonics is worth exploring. And if it IS microphonics, then I'm not entirely sure a gate ahead of the amplifier would necessarily address the issue. I'm assuming that the FX included on the amp are all digital.
Sounds to me like you are describing microphonic feedback- is it a very high pitched squeal that happens even if you use your hands to mute the strings (place your hand on them to prevent the strings from vibrating)?
I try to mute them then it stops but there is a huge, i don't know how to describe the noise but it is very unpleasant and a soon as i slightly move my hand it screams. Also i would like to add, my vox can go up to 30w. Its kinda missleading a bit.
Don't have your amp behind or in front of you, have it on the side.
I always play far and ln the side of my amp. But it still squeal/feedback/unpleasant sound
Also, ill remove the guitar factor here cuz i tryed a jackson soloist with emg 81/85, ibanez rg 370 sd sh4 jb and a flying v burstbucker pro. They all do the same
Humor me: what amp sim are you using and what is your gain set to?
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Again I will state: It is so obvious your little 20 watt low end amp can't take the volumes you want it to produce...
Humor me: what amp sim are you using and what is your gain set to?
Gain is set to the half and amp sim is i think uk metal or us metal. Add a tube od effect and not much else
Gain is set to the half and amp sim is i think uk metal or us metal. Add a tube od effect and not much else
Pretty much any "metal" setting on an amp similar to yours has the gain on the equivalent of 10 as soon as you hit 3 on the dial. Adding any tubescreamer type pedal with the gain past 2 and you are, indeed, in feedback hell.

Turn your gain down, hear the magic happen.
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Don't expect to keep up to a drummer's volume with that amp.
Don't expect to keep up to a drummer's volume with that amp.
I do keep up with a drummer. Friend's kit and the school's kit. It's loud enough
Don't expect to keep up to a drummer's volume with that amp.
Why not? I've kept up to drummers just fine with a 5 watt tube amp, and 15W solid state before.
Don't expect to keep up to a drummer's volume with that amp.
I'd agree with you that precious few 20W amps would provide a clean sound that would be competitive with a drum kit. Don't forget that he likes his tone dirty. If cleanliness is not the objective, 20W amps are loud enough.
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I do keep up with a drummer. Friend's kit and the school's kit. It's loud enough
Actually you cannot keep up unless you have the amp set so loud all it does is squeal and feedback uncontrollably. That is the real issue here.

For others who think it can, remember this is a 20 watt low end solid state amp, not a Fender Deluxe tube amp. I just bought a 30 watt solid state Fender amp for practice, and was suprised how quiet is is compared to a 30 watt tube amp. The 30 watt tube amp is very very loud. The solid state is great for quiet practicing, but I would not be able to gig with it as it runs out of headroom quickly.

Headroom is the actual key here. He has run out of headroom.

I know guys who have tried and failed to gig with the 22 watt Fender Deluxe Reverb. If the venue is of any size and the drummer plays the way most drummers do, you have to move up some wattage to be heard, or have the amp dime'd which will cause the issues the OP is having. This is without micing the amp through the PA of course.
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