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hi, i would like to know what noise gate would be the best. I like to play in distortion but my amp always make a death feedback (really hurt my ears) and then one of my friend showed me a deluxe big muff fuzz pedal and it had a noise gate on it, the feedback was gone. Unfortunately, i dont have a really big budget, only around 75-100$ So, what do you suggest?
 

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Also i would like to add, for me it will be a game changer, with music at schools and big familly reunion, i need to turn the volume up so that the people can hear me but with the, the feedback is louder. Not good for me, not good for the spectator.
 

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hi, i would like to know what noise gate would be the best. I like to play in distortion but my amp always make a death feedback (really hurt my ears) and then one of my friend showed me a deluxe big muff fuzz pedal and it had a noise gate on it, the feedback was gone. Unfortunately, i dont have a really big budget, only around 75-100$ So, what do you suggest?
You don't need a noisegate per se, you probably need to use less gain.
 

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$75-100 should get you what you need, easily. When it comes to noise gates, it's not the quality of the pedal, but how you use it. The difficulty with trying to clean up the sins of a high-gain pedal is that the user ends up expecting too much out of the noise gate.

Gates are intended to tell the difference between signal and "noise", based entirely on signal level. It can not tell the difference between what you intend to play, and what gets generated spontaneously by sources of noise around and in the guitar, cables, pedals, etc. So what you need to do is make that task as easy as possible for the gate.

If you stick the gate after a high-gain pedal, then whatever noise entered that pedal is amplified, and so is any hiss generated inside the pedal, making the difference between signal and noise smaller. So, what many smarter gates do these days is to include a loop, indicated by the presence of send and return/receive jacks (i.e., look for a gate with four jacks, and not two). Your guitar goes directly into the gate. The send jack goes out to whatever pedals you are going to use. The output of the pedals comes back to the gate, and then the gate goes to your amp. This allows the gate to tell the difference between wanted and unwanted signal at that point where it is easiest and most reliable to do so, but apply the gating at the end, where the most noise will have accumulated.

The final output of the gate does not have to be the last thing before your amp. If you have other pedals that are known to not contribute much noise at all, feel free to stick them after the gate. What is most critical is to clean up the amplified hiss/hum that your higher-gain pedal/s have produced.
 

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I just grabbed a TC Sentry off of ebay for $96USD. A little over the budget, but a good deal. One shop has a surplus, and they're selling for less than the used price over at TGP.

I bought it, because I have a few different levels of noise - hum from wiring, hum from my amp, and noise from high gain. This pedal allows for 3 different frequencies (?) to be gated.
 

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What do you mean by feedback? Noise gates usually get rid of hum when you stop playing.
I say feedback because its as annoying as putting your guitar close to the speaker (i was always told that it was called feedback) plus the hum of a single coil. I tried with different guitar but the ¨feedback¨ is always there.
 

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You don't need a noisegate per se, you probably need to use less gain.
Its not just gain. Its almost everything that cause the feedback (in my amp). I think the clean channel is safe but i never use it. Also, don't take it as an insult but, anything that i say that it would be nice to have, you say that i don't need it. I understand for the other stuff like the pickup, pedals and other but this problem is a serious problem for me
 

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They are an excellent tool to combat noise. But depending on several factors you need to determine where it's going to get placed. In many situations, you may require two of them. One pre and post. Cost wise either the Boss NS2 or the MXR Smart Gate can be had for your money used. I prefer the MXR myself. When it comes down to implementing it, do some research. There are a lot of resources out there on where to place gates.
 

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The TC Sentry does look good altho slightly over budget. Several Boss units on eBay right now within your budget. MXR, too as recommended. Shouldn't be a problem. (I even built my own from a kit years ago. Worked slick. Don't need one now thanks to lower volumes.)
 

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Wow, i looked at the price of the pedal, even on ebay. Also its 75-100 in cad. At this price, i wonder i i should get a pedal with a gate integrated in it
 

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Behringer pedals can be bought very cheaply. The circuits are often clones of earlier Boss pedals. I know people look down their noses at plastic-enclosure Behringers, and I understand their dislike of the switching in those pedals. But few players will be stepping on their noise gate pedals repeatedly during a gig. It will mostly be used as an always-on pedal, so the cheapness of the foot-treadle doesn't matter as much.
 

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Oh i forgot to mention, sure ill buy pedal in the future but for now i use the integrated pedal effect integrated in my amp, (yay it have a simulation of a TS9) so i got lods of pedal to choose from. (Not the actual setting of my amp)
 

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I was ordering stuff anyway so I grabbed a Talent (kind of the American version of Apex; they recently came out weith a line of Mooer style supermini pedals) Noise Gate pedal for a firiend (and a tuner for me). The entire line is US$30 +/- (dependng on the pedal) on sale (introductary pricing?). The gate works well; my friend used it last jam after adding 6 more pedals to his chain for recording. The tuner is actually decent too; got it for the pedalboard so I could take the Peterson Strobostomp home for setup work. I usually would stay away, but at this price, even if it breaks in a year that's not bad. The build definitely looks more solid than my Biyang delay.

"Talent GT-NG GATED Noise Gate Guitar Mini FX Pedal Stomp Box" from www.parts-express.com!

Still on sale. The line even includes a power supply (seems like a miniaturised clone of the original MXR DC brick - 9V only and no isolation; but that's fine for most people).

NEW Talent Pedals and Accessories

The shipping ain't so bad (choose the 'economy' option which includes all duties and taxes so no surprises; if you don't see it , that means there's at least one item in your order that does not qualify - these pedals do; try removing things or call their 1-800 number).
 
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If you put your guitar close to the speaker it's going to feed back. I think you are suffering from poor technique as much as 60 cycle hum.
 
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