Now that's a reason to look at Trinity amps. I'll buy Canadian if they've got what I want.Although the Ceriatone's prices can't be beat. The Quality, tech support and sound can't be beat from Trinity Amps - their made (kits as well) in Canada!
I'm kind of wondering what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that the skill level with which anything might be assembled is less than what is found in North America? I would find that offensively ethnocentric and perhaps racist. I could understand if you are thinking that random components made in parts of Asia may be lower quality because of a lot of times their isn't a concentration on quality with some manufacturers.yeesh, ceriatone has great prices, but they're made in Malaysia. I'd be careful
I like that idea! Give me until November and I'll know what my budget is like (have to see how much money this pending kid eats from my fun money account). It may be a Champ kit for me. But there will be a winter amp build. I'll drop you a PM when I know what I'm going to spend.iaresee, we might have to do another group order but out to malasia this time!!!
Yea man! Or a J.Frog type skull thing. That'd be kick ass. The recent trend in guitars is all good and nice, but no one does over-the-top show off stuff anymore...but i have got to concentrate on peicing together a bad ass looking 80's hotrodded strat first. i am tempted to do a tiger strype Lynch guitar just to be loud and arrogant. Imagine coming out on stage in some pub with a guitar like that when everyone else is playing standard numetal looking guitars or classic guitars lol.
Cool. I'm more into the Trainwreck I think. Dumble's just have the mystique but every Dumble I've heard so far is too grainy. More for fusion than rock.But anyway back to the trainwreck, their clone soide by side with a real trainwreck was extremely close when i heard the clips man.. that would be a good choice. you could also make the JAVA kit from weber which is his take on the trainwreck clone.. I confirmed that. You would get the head case with it as well.. under 500$ my friend.. build it yourself and just upgrade some of the smaller parts. a lot of it is budget but the amp should sound good if you pay atention to detail and wire it clean. If you don't..you end up with my plexi lol. Sounded great until i blew something the other day..
Hehehe. I was trying a slightly less blunt way to get to this point. I work with Malaysian electrical and computer engineers every day and they are every bit as smart and proficient as my North American and European colleagues.I'm kind of wondering what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that the skill level with which anything might be assembled is less than what is found in North America? I would find that offensively ethnocentric and perhaps racist.
And that's a plus?:smile:Hehehe. I was trying a slightly less blunt way to get to this point. I work with Malaysian electrical and computer engineers every day and they are every bit as smart and proficient as my North American and European colleagues.
That smart people exist around the world? Seems like a bonus to me. They're in short supply around these parts.And that's a plus?:smile:
Ask (email) StephenNow that's a reason to look at Trinity amps. I'll buy Canadian if they've got what I want.
Edit: I'm looking at their site now. They don't do a Dumble or Trainwreck clone. Scratch them off the list.
The reports coming in from other boards where some people have had a chance to touch the preview models are that it's a very close approximation.the ceriatone d*mble 'clone' is a rather interesting beast to try and tackle. from what i've seen, it's a mish-mash of various internet available schematics (nothing wrong w/ that) and i'm sure that nic has pieced together a decent sounding amp.
having said that, the more notable d*mbles tend to be high voltage mosters that border on the verge of instability and require a personalised touch to make them usable. because of the high voltages, some of the parts are exceedingly expensive (power and output iron) and i wonder what compromises nik has settled on to make the kit feasible for someone w/ no experience w/ such designs and still sell for 8 bills (make that 8 1/2 USD bills. /jk).
i doubt the amp will be a dog, regardless.
Am I reading that right? You have The Real Deal?anybody that does buy one of the ceriatone kits and would like to see how it compares to my amp, i'm just as curious as U are. feel free to PM me.
Who mentioned race? Besides you?That smart people exist around the world? Seems like a bonus to me. They're in short supply around these parts.
I (and bcmatt) are suggesting that broad, sweeping (and yes racist) generalizations about the quality of a product based on it's country of origin are unnecessary. To say a product is inferior simply because it's Malaysian (or Japanese, or French, or Thia, or even North American for that matter) just shows a simplicity of mind that I can't tolerate. Maybe pre-built Ceriatone amps are great, maybe they aren't. Either way it's going to be because of the people who made them, not the country they came from, the colour of their skin or the language they happen to speak. You'll find people in all places around the world who care, and people who don't, about the work they do.
kirk1701 -- you just happened to add your $0.02 to our comments to him.Who mentioned race? Besides you?
Not at all, because you're talking about a transformer. Read kirk1701's original comment. All he said was they come from Malaysia. Nothing specific. Nothing like the transformers aren't great, or the caps are inferior and tend to explode, just that they come from Malaysia.If I criticize these new Drake Transformers am I guilty of racism towards the British?
See, now you've gone off and insulted my noble profession. Are you aware that you are wrong? Being an Electrical Engineer I can speak with authority that there are plenty of us out there who understand vacuum tube transistor technology, both in the their application in analog audio amplification and elsewhere. The whole world hasn't got solid state as you suggest.Are you aware that virtually every electronic engineer today likely knows diddley-squat about tubes?
You're talking to one now (admittedly the manufacturing of tubes is not something I know with a lot of depth, but the application...no problem). And I've got an entire graduating class of people who also have my knowledge.That was over 35 years ago! How likely are you to find an engineer who knows anything about building with vacuum tubes? How many of these are familiar with guitar amp factors and not just how to make a "hifi" amp? How is race a factor?
Really Bill? Damn. They promised me they'd teach me everything in school. You've just shattered my world. Do you really think every person that touched a Black Face-era Fender Reverb was an engineering expert in their field? That once Jim Marshall designed an amplifier he only had an elite team of 20 people with 30 years of experience each build them for the world? Doesn't work like that Bill. Yes, you need someone at the top with knowledge and experience designing your product. But when it comes to manufacturing you need people who care about their jobs and what they're building. They need basic skills, but not a lifetime of experience. This particularly true if the product is designed well.They don't teach them EVERYTHING in school, you know! If you think that you can just hire anybody with a degree in electrical engineering you'll probably go bankrupt. Frankly, your amps will likely suck!
So are cars and that technology has been mastered over and over by engineers in other nations. That argument doesn't fly here. You don't have to pass through all stages of evolution of a technology in real time in order to master it, build with it and improve it. If that was the case Moore's Law wouldn't hold. Every new engineer would be catching up to Ohm and Volta.Vintage tube technologies were mostly a western society thing, simply because in 1929 or whatever we were more developed. There were decades of evolution in products and designs. A country that has only been developed in the past few decades will lack that history.
Was that shot aimed at me?People who don't know a vacuum tube from a fuse or where to stick either of them tend to assume that anybody with a soldering iron degree must know all about anything that has volts. It's just not that simple.
No one said anything about price. kirk1701 made a vague comment about the amps and Malaysia and we asked him to clarify. Otherwise we're talking about the possibility that a Dumble-style amp could be available in kit form.If all you can see is the price then you deserve whatever you get!