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An Array Of Pedals Or A Good Multi-effects Unit? Which Do You Prefer?

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I don't understand why people have all these pedals when there are such good multi-effects units available like The RP series from Digitech, Boss and the POD series from Line 6. It just makes more sense to me to have the one unit, that is so very versatile rather than half a dozen or more pedals that, in many cases, are nowhere near as versatile as the multi-effects units.

If you have a board with a bunch of pedals on it, why are you using them instead of a multi-effects unit?
 

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There needs to be a "both" option, doesn't there?

I personally can't stand multi-effects. I owned a little pod unit for a while, but the only effect that i could stand was the delay. I like pedals for their simplicity, speed of set up and, well, unmatchable versatility. Look at how many flavours of fx are out there now. A multi, unless its something spectacular, is only a model of some of those. That said, I'm also pretty spartan in my choice and number of effects.
 

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I've tried a few different multi-fx units from Boss and Vox, as well as a bunch of VSTs, and as versatile and flexible as they can be, I prefer the sound and tactile interface of pedals.

Modelers tend to sound best direct into a PA or a full-range amp and sound kinda meh through guitar amps. I like my tone through my amps, so I want something that I can use with that tone, not something that changes it entirely.
 

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I had a Line 6 M9 and it was an excellent unit with a ton of great sounding effects for the money

I found I just spent way too much time playing around with it rather than actually playing guitar. As well a lot of the effects I just never really had a use for

Now I just have a my amp distortion for high gain a Keeley SD-1 for low gain and an Ibanez DE7 delay (I may also get a chorus pedal) and I find the setting I like best then just leave knobs where they are
 

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People still find reason to use multiple pedals instead of a multi-FX unit because:

1) Sometimes a particular sound they want is not attainable within the stable of sounds in the multi-FX;

2) At least for budget units, sometimes you can't get the sequence of effects that you want;

3) Again, for budget units, imposing too many tasks on the DSP engine in the multi-FX can undermine their sound quality;

4) DSPs do everything else well but still have a hard time with distortion, particularly when the same processor is doing distortion on top of delay, modulation, amp sims, EQ, etc.

5) Manufacturers like to be able to save production costs by using displays, menus, and universal adjustment knobs. Players like to be able to reach down and tweak on demand.
 

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multi-fx have the benefit of a single power supply versus a dozen batteries...and a single patch cord rather then a whole bunch of mini ones to join several pedals...

some digitech pedals have two dsp chips doing the processing work so there is no sound quality loss due to "over working" the processor...

they are also more compact and easier to carry than some pedal boards...

having said that...you are limited to the same "brand" of effects...whereas with separate pedals...you can have boss pedals sitting next to digitech or maxon or ibanez or boutique pedals...for more variety and perhaps your personal signature sound...

individual pedals can also be modded to suit specific needs of specific players...
 

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Individual pedals are, in my oppinion, far more versatile than multi-effects processors on stage where it counts. Adjusting anything on the fly with a multi-effects pedal is damn near impossible when you're on stage in the middle of a song. With a string of stomp boxes, it's just a matter of turning a knob or stepping on the right switch. Add to that the ability to mix and match boxes to get exactly the sounds I want, instead of the sounds Line-6 or Boss think I need, not to mention that I have yet to hear a digital effects unit that doesn't sound like a digital effects unit (which I admit could very well be due to a bias on my part).

Now with the advent of quasi-affordable midi-loopers, you can get the best of both worlds.
 

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Both. For multi units I've only got 2 small ones at the moment (Boss ME20, Digitech RP100R). Of the 2, the Boss is passable, the Digitech not.

My floorboard of individual pedals is an evolving and de-evolving thing. The trick is to have lots of variables and options.

Small multi-effects units only do it for me as convenience items, nothing more. I've tried the larger Boss, Carl Martin, and Vox ones and they seem pretty good. Ultimately I prefer the guitar direct into the amp.

Peace, Mooh.
 

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Similar to a hi-fi systems:

- You can get one box that has the preamp, eq, poweramp, cd player and ipod inputs all in one
- Or you can have a separate preamp, poweramp, eq (if desired), turntable preamp, separate cd drive and electronics, etc.

To me its a no-brainer as to which one is better sounding. And the separate pieces are modifiable on a per piece basis (ie upgrade the power amp without changing everything else).

While I have a couple all-in-one stereos, for my main livingroom stereo, its separate pieces. Same with effects, while I have a multi-fx unit, my 'serious' effects are separate. That said, I've never tried the TC Electronics or other higher-end units, I'm sure they are great but pretty expensive - and you have to buy it all at once, not one $200 piece at a time.
 

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Both for me too. I have a Nova System which I find sounds great and is relatively easy to use (at least for my needs). I like the fact that the effects sounds great and there is not a bunch of power cables and patch cords everywhere. Having said that, if I am looking for a particular distortion sound then I revert to pedals. I have both set-ups and depending on what I'm playing I'll use what I find most appropriate. Generally speaking I'll use the Nova System when I play with modulation type effects and little distortion/OD.
 

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Individual pedals for me. I've had multieffects, rack setups with preamp switching, MIDI control, etc. and while regularly gigging with a band, I had a true tone revelation when my rig didn't show up for an out of town gig.

Luckily I was able to borrow a basic setup from a local musician consisting of a really basic tube amp and a few pedals. What I felt was going to be a disaster ended up being one of my best gigs from a tone standpoint- after some initial tweaking during the first couple of songs I spent the rest of the night just playing and enjoying the simplicity and the sound. What I really noticed is that if I needed to make an adjustment it was just a twist of a knob rather than paging through a menu, tweaking a setting, save, exit, etc. and I had more control over turning individual effects off without changing patches.

Obviously there are more and more units incorporating front panel knobs for more easily making on the fly adjustments but the flexibility of being able to rearrange your effect order, swap out one unit for another etc. is great. What if your multieffect chorus doesn't do it for you? You're essentially stuck with it.

Multieffects work for some and I've heard guys get great sounds. Personally I'm much happier with individual pedals.
 

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Hmm

Comes a point where you flip a switch, and the multieffects does everything else. Kinda leaves you feeling like your in kindergarten again and the teacher does all the work for you. I mean, with the 450 top guitarists sounds preprogrammed in for your knobby selection, where does that leave you room to be your own self?

Personally, I would rather be the player that uses an old amp, rusty speaker, loose cables, bent strings, with raspy voice.
 

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I think if your playing atmospheric, effect heavy types of music, a multi-effects unit might be the simpler and more versatile way to go. On the other hand, if your a simple classic rock/blues type player, your probably going to find multi-effects units unconvincing tonally speaking. A friend had a very cool effects unit that was fun for creating unique sounds, but we once tried to assign the expression pedal a "classic wah" effect and it was awful.

Shawn
 

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I'm surprised that so many opt for individual pedals. With the ability in many of the multi-effects units to dial in your own sound and save it, I would think it would be easier in the long run to get the sound you want, tap the foot switch and Bob's your uncle. Obviously, I'm in the minority here.
 

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I'm surprised that so many opt for individual pedals. With the ability in many of the multi-effects units to dial in your own sound and save it, I would think it would be easier in the long run to get the sound you want, tap the foot switch and Bob's your uncle. Obviously, I'm in the minority here.
I think it is a matter of the relative weight and costs/benefits of the one format over the other. For someone who employs a great many very different sounds (e.g., someone in a commercial cover band), the convenience of preset storage is every bit as important as you suggest. For someone who might be in a blues band, the preset aspect is of much lesser importance, and the ability to reach down and tweak to taste may be of greater utility.
 

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:)

Multi-effects are made using Rockwell products such as:

[video=youtube;RXJKdh1KZ0w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w[/video]
YouTube - Rockwell Retro Encabulator

Just thank the powers that be, that SONY doesn't yet make a multi-effects pedal!
*** LANGUAGE WARNING *** if you like Trailer Park Boys and know the response to "Knock knock" then you wont have a problem with this :D

[video=youtube;73-S8lt_z5E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73-S8lt_z5E[/video]
YouTube - Sony Piece of shit lol
 

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100% array of pedals. Once you put time into making a travel worthy pedal board it is by far the superior choice, at least for my purpose. The interaction of pedals with each-other is where magick happens! Not to mention durability, and ability to repair.

With that said, if you need regular repeatable exact results, and don't take the time to set it up then a multi fx unit will do that quickly, but at a cost of being locked in to some kind of control system.

Note the evolution of Line6 & BOSS products. They started out with amps / fx units that had memory for tones, and the ability to switch presets on the fly, but little ability to remotely and easily modify the preset. Then they went to pedals with knobs again, and a few banks of memory, with some really neat abilities to morph multiple settings together which was unheard of except in the synth realm. Then they went to preset systems with knobs so that you could modify again, then they went to being able to modify the order of the FX... so it's quite obvious which method is still dominant since the modelers are still trying to model what everyone wants.

The bottom line is that a computer program will always do what it is programmed to do, and nothing more. Analog "glitches" (or combinations) are the reason that people have their own sound.
 
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