View Full Version : Fox News blames canadian beer fridges for global warming
LowWatt
11-30-2007, 08:58 AM
At first I thought this might be a fake, but it's playfully racist, ignorantly blaming a tiny insignificant sub group (that isn't the US) for a major problem, there's a typo in it. That sounds like Fox News to me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313844,00.html
Starbuck
11-30-2007, 09:01 AM
Truthfully I have heard that theory before, just not with such a silly spin. Now excuse me I must get back to my Donuts and Poutine! :smilie_flagge17:
Yikes!
Hamm Guitars
11-30-2007, 09:09 AM
That doesn't supprise me. A few months ago I was watching fox news on TV and there was a woman from the US ranting and saying how the US should invade Canada and wipe us all out.
The last time they tried that we kicked their ass in Wild Bill's backyard and then marched down and burned down the whitehouse.
Vincent
11-30-2007, 09:13 AM
I dont see how they would know that 1 in 3 have an old beer fridge?...nobody asked me if i had one...I like how these people just pull numbers out of nowhere...personally i like my beer at room temp and dont put beer in the fridge.
this writer must be friends with that idiot Bill O'Reilly...what a clown that dick is.
fraser
11-30-2007, 09:33 AM
huh?
and americans dont have old beer fridges? just us?
that is really really fekked up-
the biggest source of pollution in the world is saying we need to stop saving our old fridges?
i think they need to shut up, or well kikk theyre asses.
they should spend more time worrying about stuff like this-
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/mg19626323.700-insight-overfishing-is-creating-a-jellyfish-plague.html
Michelle
11-30-2007, 09:38 AM
Or, hmmm, how about stop the f'n wars! I don't have a beer fridge nor do I know anyone that has. FOX is the propaganda arm of the US gov't.
simescan
11-30-2007, 09:48 AM
Is it O.K. if I store beer in a new fridge,...and keep the fridge in an old basement??? :-)
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 09:49 AM
"The last time they tried that we kicked their ass"
The last time they tried that there was no "Canada"... But the BRITISH here at the time sure gave 'em a run for their money
And well, I hate to tell you but David Suzuki has been telling Canadians to get rid of their beer fridges for a couple of years now....
Vincent
11-30-2007, 10:04 AM
i think we can all agree that old fridges take up more energy and people probably need to stop using them and recycle the metal or whatever for future products however i just dont see how they come up with 33% of canadians have an old beer fridge...what did they survey 100 people and base that information as fact?...what a joke.
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 10:10 AM
"what did they survey 100 people and base that information as fact?...what a joke."
Or probably 10 people.... This is after all, Fox news....
Joke is too kind a word to use.
Vincent
11-30-2007, 10:12 AM
I agree it is to kind
At first I thought this might be a fake, but it's playfully racist, ignorantly blaming a tiny insignificant sub group (that isn't the US) for a major problem
Cool, Canadians are now a separate race from Americans. I never knew that.:smile:
I read the source article that Faux News reported on:
http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12975-beer-fridges-present-a-gassy-problem.html
I don't find it incredible that 1 in 3 Canadians have a second fridge. It may be the old fridge at the cottage. While many old fridges are dedicated to beer, (a truly noble gesture, IMHO), that doesn't have to be the case. It doesn't take long to add up to a lot of extra fridges. And fridges are energy pigs.
Wild Bill isn't too keen on saving energy with CF lamps, but he has comented on the true energy demands in the home. Heating and refridgeration are two of the biggest energy costs in the average home. They are not, as WB might say, mice nuts.
My in-laws have a fridge they bought used in the early 70's, and built it into the wall in the wet bar. It still has the tag on the back from when the Hydro utility converted it from 25Hz to 60 Hz inthe 50's. I don't think they are unique in that regard. Because it is built in, they don't want to replace it.
I've been thinking about replacing a completely functional fridge i my home, strictly for the energy savings. If the fridge lasts 15 years, I'll break even, and I am a firm believer in the idea that it is cheaper to save a megawatt of energy than it is to build a megawatt of energy capacity into the system.
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 10:30 AM
"Wild Bill isn't too keen on saving energy with CF lamps"
Really?!?!?! I can't imagine why....
Wait... is he played by Tom Hanks (http://imdb.com/title/tt0162222/) maybe??
LowWatt
11-30-2007, 10:32 AM
Cool, Canadians are now a separate race from Americans. I never knew that.:smile:
Me and my journalism degree bastardizing our language once again. Prejudiced would have been better (and given some nice alliteration). The point is the same.
Aside from this story though, I do believe Fox News is often playfully racist.
Me and my journalism degree bastardizing our language once again. Prejudiced would have been better (and given some nice alliteration). The point is the same.
Aside from this story though, I do believe Fox News is often playfully racist.
I'd use xenophobic mostly because you can't say xenophobic without thinking of Don Cherry.
And a day without Don Cherry is like a day without a bench clearing hockey donnybrook of 8 year olds.
Back to our regular scheduled programming.......
Starbuck
11-30-2007, 10:36 AM
Aside from this story though, I do believe Fox News is often playfully racist.
No just Fox News. But then I don't really think this was playful...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tzqp3Ly5Reg
david henman
11-30-2007, 11:00 AM
I'd use xenophobic mostly because you can't say xenophobic without thinking of Don Cherry.
And a day without Don Cherry is like a day without a bench clearing hockey donnybrook of 8 year olds.
Back to our regular scheduled programming.......
...yup. why would anyone be surprised that eight year olds are imitating (so-called) adult behavior?
duh!
-dh
...yup. why would anyone be surprised that eight year olds are imitating (so-called) adult behavior?
duh!
-dh
...and I thought the problem was too many adults acted like children.
I'm getting dizzy.
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 11:21 AM
"too many adults acted like children"
Which is why a lot of children never learn how to behave like adults.
RIFF WRATH
11-30-2007, 11:34 AM
That Fox stuff is BS.
everyone knows canucks only plug in their fridges in the summer. In the winter we unplug them and put the beer in to keep it from freezing.
now I've got my mind on a cold one...darn
cheers
RIFF
shoretyus
11-30-2007, 12:24 PM
everyone knows canucks only plug in their fridges in the summer. In the winter we unplug them and put the beer in to keep it from freezing.
now I've got my mind on a cold one...darn
cheers
RIFF
The ol' Canadian beer dance.... or race. How long is it "out and about" before the beer freezes. Or the ol' pick up the case and the bottom is still frozen to the ground.
traynor_garnet
11-30-2007, 01:11 PM
If you read the full article you will see that the actual research was done by a Professor at U of A (where I am). The research is legit, but Fox's spin as being a "Canadian problem" certainly raises an eyebrow. Do they know Molson Canadian is owned by an American company?
Regarding the "how do they know 1 in 3 Canadian have a beer fridge" it's simply straightforward polling and statistics.
BTW, when did Fox news finally concede that global warming is occurring??!! :wave:
TG
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
"it's simply straightforward polling and statistics"
Anybody who's ever done any knows there's no such thing as "straightforward polling and statistics"....
Such can always be skewed to pretty much generate any result you're looking for....
zontar
11-30-2007, 01:22 PM
As Mark Twain, I believe, said--there are three types of lies:
lies, damn lies & statistics.
As Mark Twain, I believe, said--there are three types of lies:
lies, damn lies & statistics.
3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population.
Approx. 58% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 01:31 PM
" Approx. 58% of all statistics are made up on the spot."
Actually The Song says 64% (http://www.eighteenminutes.com/Lyrics/StatisticiansBlues.html)
,-)
traynor_garnet
11-30-2007, 01:48 PM
"it's simply straightforward polling and statistics"
Anybody who's ever done any knows there's no such thing as "straightforward polling and statistics"....
Such can always be skewed to pretty much generate any result you're looking for....
By "straightforward polling and statistics" I simply meant that the figure "1 in 3 Canadians" was attained through a survey. Such surveys, in terms of methodological design, are fairly straightforward as long as the adhere to the principles/criteria of scientific design.
Anyone who does statistics in a rigorous and scientific manner knows that statistics cannot simply be manipulated to produce any result you want. Those who abuse statistical methods to attain desired results are not doing statistics.
The abuse and misuse of statistical procedures has unfortunately led the general public to think any and all stats are a crock; usually they have no idea how difficult, rigorous, and demanding quality statistical analysis is.
To throw out all statistical research because of some misuse is kind of like refusing to talk because some people use language to lie.
TG
ClintonHammond
11-30-2007, 02:03 PM
"Those who abuse statistically methods to attain desired results are not doing statistics."
That is a more than fair enough clarification!
But there are an awful lot of people out there who say they are doing statistics and in fact are not....
david henman
11-30-2007, 02:33 PM
Approx. 58% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
...i became aware of this many, many years ago when i would see a flock of birds flying overhead. upon closer inspection, i realized that many were actually not birds, but dots.
needless to say, it changed my life.
-dh
RIFF WRATH
11-30-2007, 03:13 PM
awe come on David....are you tryin to tell me those are just dot's at my bird feeder.....fine...but who's eatin the seed?
cheers
RIFF
awe come on David....are you tryin to tell me those are just dot's at my bird feeder.....fine...but who's eatin the seed?
cheers
RIFF
The squirrels, or as my much better half calls them, bushy tailed rats.
B, E, A, D, and G
12-02-2007, 10:32 PM
Looks like we're gonna have to burn down the White House, again.
Robert1950
12-03-2007, 06:48 AM
The squirrels, or as my much better half calls them, bushy tailed rats.
I prefer plain old 'Tree Rats'
Robert1950
12-03-2007, 06:51 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they blamed Canadian beer drinkers for beer farts adding more green house gas than American beef herds next.
laristotle
12-03-2007, 07:23 AM
I prefer plain old 'Tree Rats'
Glorified Roof Rabbits. All evil I tell you.
http://jackhole.net/wp-content/photos/Squirrelpranos.jpghttp://jackhole.net/wp-content/photos/hung_out_squirrel.jpg
Wild Bill
12-03-2007, 08:39 AM
That doesn't supprise me. A few months ago I was watching fox news on TV and there was a woman from the US ranting and saying how the US should invade Canada and wipe us all out.
The last time they tried that we kicked their ass in Wild Bill's backyard and then marched down and burned down the whitehouse.
And how well would we do today,Andy?
Not only is our military a pittance in comparison today, but we're still giving our soldiers the same guns they used in Stoney Creek the last time!:smile:
:food-smiley-004:
NB-SK
12-03-2007, 11:24 AM
I blame Fox's use of the digitally-highlighted puck, and the accompanying sound effects, during hockey games broadcasts for Canadians drinking habits. :smilie_flagge17:
RIFF WRATH
12-03-2007, 02:48 PM
I've got to the point that the word hockey is synonimous with beer.....well it really could be any other word...but might as well blame them 'mericans
cheers
RIFF
david henman
12-04-2007, 10:02 AM
I blame Fox's use of the digitally-highlighted puck, and the accompanying sound effects, during hockey games broadcasts for Canadians drinking habits. :smilie_flagge17:
...i think you may be onto something, here.
i have long suspected that the digitally-highlighted puck was the cause of my increased thirst for bourbon with a beer chaser, not to mention my short-term memory loss and my increased propensity for cuffing small, furry animals behind the ears.
-dh
FOX news is the "National Inquirer" of the TV world. I'm surprised so many people admit in public they watch it :D
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