Fender's Canadian Prices: Any changes?

[Arc Angel]

I know that Yorkville lowered Gibson prices several weeks ago to reflect our might dollar, but most Fender shops I've seen have retained their too high CDN prices.

Has anyone heard if Fender will adjust Canadian prices. If they have, can you site some examples for upper MIM (Classics, Deluxe, Classic Players) and US guitars (Sig series, AV resissues, etc.).

[Rumble_b]

Fender prices at L&M have gone down. I think it may have been before the big dollar gain. I can't remember many prices but a MIM powerhouse Strat was $730 and is now $680 I think. A MIA strat has gone from I think $1295 to $1095. I just hate that the same LP I bought a year and a half ago is now $400 cheaper!!

[GuitarsCanada]

Fender prices at L&M have gone down. I think it may have been before the big dollar gain. I can't remember many prices but a MIM powerhouse Strat was $730 and is now $680 I think. A MIA strat has gone from I think $1295 to $1095. I just hate that the same LP I bought a year and a half ago is now $400 cheaper!!

$400 is in the ouch category man.

[Accept2]

The Jacksons appear to have lower prices. Jackson is owned by Fender, so it should be accross all their brands...............

[Arc Angel]

Still come pretty big differences between Fender pricing in the USA on in Canada. Sometimes $200-$300 CDN. I haven't seen any changes on the signature series or AV reissues, etc. (and I'm shopping for one).

[al3d]

I just orded a Stratocaster 62 reissue HotRod, and it was the exact same price as it is in the US..i check a few other guitas, fender models, and they were pretty much the same as they are in the states right now

[Robert1950]

Last week, I noodled on an Aerodyne Classic strat (CIJ) at L&M. It was $850 Cdn. The selling price at all US online dealers was $700 US. I can understand smaller volume, higher shipping cost, but not at $150.

[Arc Angel]

Last week, I noodled on an Aerodyne Classic strat (CIJ) at L&M. It was $850 Cdn. The selling price at all US online dealers was $700 US. I can understand smaller volume, higher shipping cost, but not at $150.

MIA Sig series guitars are $200-300 more. MIM Classics or CPs are $150 more in Toronto. I've seen many dealers put new guitars out in the last week or so at old prices.

al3d how much did you pay for your Hot Rod? Where did you get it? There are certainly about $200+ more in Toronto than US prices.

[al3d]

MIA Sig series guitars are $200-300 more. MIM Classics or CPs are $150 more in Toronto. I've seen many dealers put new guitars out in the last week or so at old prices.

al3d how much did you pay for your Hot Rod? Where did you get it? There are certainly about $200+ more in Toronto than US prices.


I paid 1589$+ Tx. One thing you need to understand is the instrument that are already in stock will mostlikely not drop in price since they were bought at hight prices. New ones ordered should be the SAME as US prices, or at best 2 to 2.5% more for shipping cost to Canada Tops.

[Rumble_b]

$400 is in the ouch category man.


Yes it is. :mad:

[Arc Angel]

I paid 1589$+ Tx. One thing you need to understand is the instrument that are already in stock will mostlikely not drop in price since they were bought at hight prices. New ones ordered should be the SAME as US prices, or at best 2 to 2.5% more for shipping cost to Canada Tops.

L+M had a Hot Rod 62 in stock and they were asking well over $1850 CDN IIRC when a played it 10 days ago. I think it was close to $1900. Even Sigs and AVRI were over $1725.

al3d, where did you buy the guitar?

[al3d]

L+M had a Hot Rod 62 in stock and they were asking well over $1850 CDN IIRC when a played it 10 days ago. I think it was close to $1900. Even Sigs and AVRI were over $1725.

al3d, where did you buy the guitar?

I bought it in Sherbrooke / QUebec. the price you mentionned are pretty accurate if they had those guitars for a while. if they order a "new" one, then they have to give you the price i paid for basicaly.

[Mogwaii]

Fender prices at L&M have gone down. I think it may have been before the big dollar gain. I can't remember many prices but a MIM powerhouse Strat was $730 and is now $680 I think. A MIA strat has gone from I think $1295 to $1095. I just hate that the same LP I bought a year and a half ago is now $400 cheaper!!

it is garbage
isnt it?
but i love her <3

[Arc Angel]

Any updates on Fender prices anyone? Any drops on Sig Series or AV reissues at your local stores? L + M is "claiming" that there have been drops (but are quoting pre drop prices) :confused:

[MetallicaRHCP]

I bought it in Sherbrooke / QUebec. the price you mentionned are pretty accurate if they had those guitars for a while. if they order a "new" one, then they have to give you the price i paid for basicaly.

Was the store called Steve's?

[david henman]

$400 is in the ouch category man.

...i hear that.

i paid $1600 plus tax for my tascam 2488 digital recorder. roughly a year later they dropped the price to $800.

:mad:

-dh

[Telenator]

No changes ..... see the dollar hit 1.05 us this morning.
Would love to do my business in Canada but I just can't justify paying 150 to 200 dollars more for a MIM Deluxe 72

[a Pack of Wolves]

we need to pressure them as the faithfull (repeat)and often 'high end' customers

the fact the we could pay $10 000 for some PRS's is a low down crime

i know people to to make a living but the prices being asked for pro gear is off the scale nowdays

even Eastwood's (which is really really dig) are asking too much in terms of what their retail pricing is,i remeber a while ago they were offering good deals for canadian artists,so i could be wrong about them

you can good priced stuff
(say fun beginners models or lesser known names)
but they're usually all basswood now.
not dissing basswood,one of my main guitars has a basswood body.
it's just nice to have more choice.

i know there is alot of inexpensive good quality gear these days,but you'll RARELY see any of it made in canada or america.
i have no idea how Godin has been able to keep there prices as fair as they are.

i wish we had more choices in terms of fairly priced canadian made gear (guitars,amps,whatever),
that wasn't just vintage/older stuff.

it would just be nice to have more options.

[Arc Angel]

I'm not convinced that some of the companies haven't kicked back credits to the retailers, while the retailers are still trying to shaft their buyers.

The spread is simply getting out of hand now IMO.

[al3d]

I'm not convinced that some of the companies haven't kicked back credits to the retailers, while the retailers are still trying to shaft their buyers.

The spread is simply getting out of hand now IMO.

I know the manager pretty well at my local shop and what he told me is that while their "in stock" can't be lowerd, their new order in stock is getting much lower prices right now. i ordered my 62 AV HotRod, and it was a LOT less then when i first shopped for it..so we need a bit more patience i guess..:)

[Telenator]

CBC The National did a thing on this last night.
The retail shops blamed the wholesalers/distributers, the distributers blamed the manufacturers and they all blamed the government. The CBC showed a graph comparing the rise of the Canadian dollar to profit of retailers and distributers for I believe 10 yrs. Candian dollar rising and profits rising, with a conclusion someone is benifitting and it isn't the consumer.

They conducted nterviews from all angles. A book retailer who had no intention of lowering prices untill older stock was gone, said it could take up to a year. Another book retailer lowered all prices to match US prices and said if he didn't he would lose all his business and was happy to suck up a loss on his older stock just to keep customers.

A large music supply wholesaler said he expects prices to drop but it would take 3 to 4 months to clear the stock. They said musicians usually live on tight budgets and will do all their business through the states if things didn't change. He expected prices to drop dramatically in first part of 2008. He also mentioned you will never see true price parity because it's more expensive to do business in Canada. One example cited was different regulatory process. Electrical items imported and sold in Canada have to meet CSA approval. The distributer has to deal with government red tape, sometime perform electrical modifications, and hire a contractor to grant CSA approval which adds to the cost of the item.

Anyway to make a long story short it seems as if all our nagging is being heard. I'll draw my own conclusions and say if prices do drop it's not because the stores are nice guys. It's because they are reading posts like this and getting enough complaints that they realize they will not survive in this market because we won't tollerate the BS. If things don't change there are a whack of US stores that will do business with us.

[Geek]

The price issue will be far from over. This morning I hear of a camera store in Vancouver dropping his prices on par with his US counterparts. Now his fellow camera shops in Vancouver wish him great ill for doing so.

I can imagine the same would be for the music retailers.


A book retailer who had no intention of lowering prices untill older stock was gone, said it could take up to a year.

He or she will be out of business by then :wink:

[a Pack of Wolves]

an example
i go to chapter's (the bigbox book store) and the canada $$ to american $$
listings on books are a few years put of date,even on new books

like the canadian price is 25% to 30% higher

an effing RIP OFF

especially when there is no other store of comparable variety
(their sister stores indigo have basically the same product)


generally speaking i'm pleased with the price and service at long and mac's
(the fact they wear ties is abit out of touch w/ rock and roll culture)
i think that alot of the prices at l and m's have more to do with the manufacturing companies prices that they sell to the store at
-low end gear is affordable but other than that you have no choice-

$3000 for a new gibson guitar,they are simply ripping us off.
i've owned gibson stuff (and do) and they do it 'cause they can.
i've owned fender stuff,same thing.

i know companies need to turn a profit,but things are out of control.

i want to support canadian stores and companies (and think i do)
my main guitars where assembled largely in part by local luthiers,and i payed for the work (yes $50 is too much,but yer screwed if you don't use a good lutheir when you really need one).
in the future i will probably buy cheaper stuff and just use it as is,
in terms of guitars.

i know professionals need to make money near their skill level
but somehow things have gotten out of control.

it's no wonder someone goes and buys a $200 to $500 asian guitar,
even some friggin asian guitars are starting at $1000.
the cats who are making these things are making much less than a luthier here i'm sure,and you still pay $1000,where is the savings?

i don't always want to have to buy used things
(which are more worn down than newer ones,generally)
just to get 'the deal'.

we pay too much for new professional (or mid level) gear.

hats off to Godin for having prices and products for the normal guy who may play like a pro but not have cash to burn...
-they just need to start making some guitars that don't look so stupid-

i don't want someone reading this to think i have any kind of grudge against people just trying to make a living or trying to run their high end business,
but we (the buying public) are being screwed because we need certain pieces of kit of a certain level of quality.

some of the mid priced and lower asian stuff is making highend canadian made (or american) pieces into really bad deals.
individual luthiers are making great guitars with resale value that doesn't cover the original cost.

the world is a mad mad place.

[Ophidian]

I was at Guitarworks in Calgary and they had some Fender Highway One for $750. Thats the same price as alot of US online stores. :smilie_flagge17:

[AcousticAl]

Renaissance Music in Kingston has dropped their prices because of the exchange rate. A 52' RI Tele that was going for about $1800 is now going for $1600. Still pretty steep IMO. At least they are acknowledging the improved exchange rate. I hope it gets better.
:smilie_flagge17:

Cheers,
Al

[aC2rs]

Forget the pricing differences between US and CDN dollar, the marketing wizards at these manufacturers have a very warped sense of value for their product.

For instance a Le Paul Studio $1200 a Les Paul Standard $2200.

The difference?

Essentially the binding on the body and neck. $1000 difference - I think not.

Was in L&M recently an saw several SGs hanging on the wall. A standard was $1399 and a 61RI was $1850. Why? The difference the RI had a 60s style neck, a different pick guard and burstbucker pickups. The difference in cost of manufacturing? Negligible

They will charge what they can squeeze out of the market.

[Geek]

They will charge what they can squeeze out of the market.

"Never underestimate the stupidity of the ... public." - P.T. Barnum

:rolleyes:

[al3d]

Forget the pricing differences between US and CDN dollar, the marketing wizards at these manufacturers have a very warped sense of value for their product.

For instance a Le Paul Studio $1200 a Les Paul Standard $2200.

The difference?

Essentially the binding on the body and neck. $1000 difference - I think not.

Was in L&M recently an saw several SGs hanging on the wall. A standard was $1399 and a 61RI was $1850. Why? The difference the RI had a 60s style neck, a different pick guard and burstbucker pickups. The difference in cost of manufacturing? Negligible

They will charge what they can squeeze out of the market.

dude, there's more to the Studio and a LP then bindings..LOL....a LOT more. go check the specs carfully. wood alone will cost you a LOT of money on a guitar like a AAA maple flametop.

[exhausted]

Any updates on Fender prices anyone? Any drops on Sig Series or AV reissues at your local stores? L + M is "claiming" that there have been drops (but are quoting pre drop prices) :confused:

yes, the prices have dropped. i actually bought an AV52 tele before the craziness, got a price reduction as the price dropped between order and purchase and have received money back after the fact since the price came down within 30 days.

their prices are being adjusted on the first of each month from what i can gather.

[aC2rs]

dude, there's more to the Studio and a LP then bindings..LOL....a LOT more. go check the specs carfully. wood alone will cost you a LOT of money on a guitar like a AAA maple flametop.

That price would be for comparable ebony models. They don't use AAA maple flame tops on solid colour guitars. Apples to Apples. Same electronics, same hardware, and same sound.

Yes, there is more labour involved with finishing a Standard but not that kind of money's worth.

My point isn't that Standards aren't worth more than a Studio because they are, my point is that they seriously overcharge for the cosmetic upgrades they offer which don't make the guitars any better.

The prices they charge have everything to do with marketing and not with how much extra it costs to build the guitar.

I have a Studio, and to me it offers good value for the money. I would never pay the kind of money they want for a Standard because I don't see how upgraded cosmetics justify the upgraded price they charge for them.

There are people who do feel that the cosmetics are worth the difference in price and that's perfectly fine and why we are given choices.

[Ophidian]

Don't guitar stores in Canada get charged duty on the guitars they get from out of country? I don't know how it works. And shipping would be higher too. So prices would be higher than the US. I'm only bring this up because I hear some people think the price in Canada and the US should be the same.

[al3d]

Don't guitar stores in Canada get charged duty on the guitars they get from out of country? I don't know how it works. And shipping would be higher too. So prices would be higher than the US. I'm only bring this up because I hear some people think the price in Canada and the US should be the same.

it actually all depends on where the shop gets it's instruments. for exemple, i ordered 2 tweed cases for 2 of my fenders since the i HATE the molded ones. if they would have orded the case trought the regulalr channel, wich means via the fender accessories distributors, i would cost me 235$ each. now, instead they were in the instance or ordering a load of fenders, wich they order directly trough fender, so they asked for 2 more cases, and how it's costing me only 149$ each instead, that's actually almost 50$ less then in the US.

Gibson for exemple do not sell direct to any shop in canada, so their is a large commission taken there. Right now fender guitars, in sherbrooke at least, are cheaper then any models sold in the US, for some strange reason, canadien made traynor amps are 30% cheaper IN THE US, does'nt make any sens to me . I was to buy their new vintage amp...but to expensive to get it in canada right now.

[Teleplucker]

I know the manager pretty well at my local shop and what he told me is that while their "in stock" can't be lowerd, their new order in stock is getting much lower prices right now. i ordered my 62 AV HotRod, and it was a LOT less then when i first shopped for it..so we need a bit more patience i guess..:)

It's going to be "in stock" for a long time then :smile:.

Whenever I ask L&M for a price these days, they have to check their computer system since the tagged price is usually wrong (too high).

I just bought a Gretsch from the States for $1350CDN. The same guitar was tagged locally at over $3000 2 or 3 years ago :banana:.

OTOH, I get paid in USD so I've taken a 25% pay cut in the last year :mad:.

I sort of feel sorry for the retailers. I lived in the States for a number of years up until 5 years ago. I'm pretty sure Canadian retailers, in general, were taking lower profits back then when our dollar was so weak. People I knew in the States would buy some stuff in Canada because it was so affordable (climbers, for example, would buy everything at MEC). Now, that the situation has changed, they can't recoup those lost profits. OTOH, I'm also complaining about the prices.

Guitars etc. are annoying, but what's REALLY annoying is cars. I paid thousands more for my car last year compared to US prices and it's gotten worse with an even stronger dollar. I'm wondering if I'm going to screwed with used prices in the future.

[ampaholic]

A Fender Vintage Hot Rod 62 resissue in my local music store is "on sale" for $2200. The same guitar can be bought in Maine, a 1 hour drive from where I live, for $1599.
I'm as patriotic as the next guy, but something isn't right here!
:smilie_flagge17:

[Robert1950]

AT L&M in Toronto today. A Fender Classic Series '60s Stratocaster Electric Guitar had a price tag of $699 Cdn. The same guitar (3 tone burst)is $684.93 US on MF at the current rate of exchange today is $628.94 Cdn. But given that the US dollar is falling faster than a lead balloon in Jupiter's gravity,... the difference isn't that bad. ($1.00 Cdn = $1.09 US)

[NB_Terry]

I was in a store in Saint John today. I saw those little plastic Danelectro pedals. At first I thought the price tag was $29, thinking that's not too bad.

Then I looked closer, and realized they were $79.95 each!

With tax, $91 for a Dano mini pedal! How do they sell any at that price?

This isn't really a US to Cdn comparison, just an unreasonable pricing situation.

[Robert1950]

Then I looked closer, and realized they were $79.95 each!

I bought a Dano Fish and Chips 7 band EQ for $39 over a year and half ago at Steve's in Toronto. You're right this is nothing to do with Cdn/US thing. He's a crook.