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Robert1950
05-19-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm making a guess here, but would this scale be an E minor diminished 2nd?

E F G A B C D E

GuitaristZ
05-19-2007, 11:52 AM
Well...normal E minor is E F# G A B C D E because it is the relative minor of G major which has 1 sharp, F#.

Therefore, if the F is natural, it must be diminished 2nd.

NB_Terry
05-19-2007, 12:02 PM
E Phrygian

Mooh
05-19-2007, 12:15 PM
Yup, E phrygian. Mooh.

Robert1950
05-19-2007, 12:22 PM
Thanks - found this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_mode

They refer to the 2nd as a flat 2nd. This scale would be the modern Phrygian.

Robert1950
05-19-2007, 12:32 PM
Or if you want to O.D. on this stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_mode

GuitaristZ
05-19-2007, 12:47 PM
wait...I thought the phrygian mode was b2, b3, b6, and b7?

that would be: E F Gb A B Cb Db E

Mr. David Severson
05-19-2007, 07:24 PM
wait...I thought the phrygian mode was b2, b3, b6, and b7?

that would be: E F Gb A B Cb Db E

Yes you would be correct for the most part..you would use that formula to alter from the major scale of E. It contains E F# G# A B C# D# thus the alteration would give you that of a C scale.:food-smiley-004:

GuitaristZ
05-19-2007, 08:22 PM
i am now officially confused

kat_
05-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Read over Mr David's explanation again. It's good.
If you start with E major - E, F#, G#, A, B, C#, D#, E and the flatten the 2 (F#-> F), flatten the 3 (G#-> G), flatten the 6 and 7 (C# -> C and D#-> D) so you get E F G A B C D E.

Where you got confused before was you started from the minor instead of the major. If you want to start from the natural minor then just flatten the 2.

GuitaristZ
05-19-2007, 10:38 PM
aah! now i understand lol...thanks!