Just Dropped My Gary Moore on the Floor

[GuitarsCanada]

I am bumming BIG TIME.... just drop my Heritage Gary Moore on the floor, directly on the top of the neck, appears to be cracked good. I need help boy's. I have to have it looked at now. I am thinking the 12th fret... any others in the Southern Ontario area? :mad:

[zdogma]

http://www.folkwaymusic.com/

[mandocaster]

Oh man....never let a guitar hang by its strap. Always hold it by the neck join. Speshly with Gibsons. Ouch!

[nine]

I've always heard really great things about the Guitar Clinic in Hamilton.

[J S Moore]

Guitar Clinic is mostly basses now. There was a tech there years ago who left a bad impression with me. He might not be there now but you know how those things linger.

Try Freddy Gabsrek. He did the re-fret on my Studio and did a top notch job.

Here's his site: http://www.freddysfrets.com/ . He's located in Welland but well worth the trip.

Good luck. I live in fear of that sort of thing.

[bubkusjones]

The Guitar Clinic is closed. George Furlanetto (Owner of the Guitar Clinic and the F-Bass shop), decided that he wanted to put his focus back into his F-Bass line, and closed the Guitar Clinic. I'm not sure how accurate this is but this is what I've heard/read.

I'm hoping I can get a job there this summer.



One of the techs from the Guitar Clinic opened his own shop "The Peghead".

[nine]

Oops. I didn't know that.

[bubkusjones]

Oops. I didn't know that.


Yeah, it sucks. I've only known about the place for a year before it closed.

[Metal#J#]

I am bumming BIG TIME.... just drop my Heritage Gary Moore on the floor, directly on the top of the neck, appears to be cracked good. I need help boy's. I have to have it looked at now. I am thinking the 12th fret... any others in the Southern Ontario area? :mad:As far as repairs go, I've not had good luck at the 12th fret. They put a chip in my headstock with a file while fixing the nut on my PRS and tried to paint it without telling me.
Not to mention there's sort of an elitist attitude among their employees.

Everytime I go in there I feel like:sport-smiley-002:

[Stratocaster]

ZOMG!

YOU DROPPED THAT??!?!

:oooo

Ouch!!!

Sorry to hear this, I don't know anything about guitar repairs...

[dwagar]

A headstock crack, or you cracked the neck?
If it's the neck, you might want to ship it to Heritage for a reneck. You might be looking at about a grand (just guessing tho)

[GuitarsCanada]

Yes, it's in the neck below the headstock. I will take some pics and put them up. Might need a new neck altogether... which would be a major bummer since I would have to get a regular neck and not the Gary Moore signature neck

[GuitarsCanada]

Here are some pics of the damage. The one crack is clear, the one on top looks more like a scrape. I cannot see a crack in the wood. Looks like someone took a knife and just carved off the finish. I assume the stress cracked it there though and caused this.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/lespauldouble/Picture094.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g216/lespauldouble/Picture092.jpg

[dwagar]

I think that's repairable, find the best luthier you can. I wouldn't think you'd have to replace the neck for that.

oh, and DONT DO THAT AGAIN

[nine]

That definitely looks repairable. I'm no luthier, but it seems to me that since the break is really long, there's a lot of surface area for gluing.

[mandocaster]

I'm for 1) it's repairable 2) don't do it again; as well! Otherwise we'll just have to penalize you!

[Yerffej]

I second folkway music. They are REALLY good. The place I use is in kitchener, called Schatten design, he was done lots of neck reset's too, folkway deals primarily in vintage though.

[rippinglickfest]

They say after you glue a piece of neck wood thats been damaged like that the repair is actually stronger than the original..........at least the ones that are not snapped completely off.

[mario]

I am so sorry that happened to that beautiful guitar. I'm no expert, but I have seen guitars with much worse breaks that were expertly repaired. Take your time and find a good repairman.

[GuitarsCanada]

Yes, I will get it repaired for sure, it's my number one. I almost cried when it dropped to the floor. Any other guitar in the collection.... it had to be that one.

[Lester B. Flat]

Yes, I will get it repaired for sure, it's my number one. I almost cried when it dropped to the floor. Any other guitar in the collection.... it had to be that one.

You only hurt the one you love. Loved guitars get bashed and broken. Neglected guitars stay in mint condition. Fix it and continue to rock the bejeesus out of it!
:rockon:

[GuitarsCanada]

Right on man. I will do just that. :food-smiley-004:

[Chito]

They say after you glue a piece of neck wood thats been damaged like that the repair is actually stronger than the original..........at least the ones that are not snapped completely off.

I've seen this with a few Gibson Les Paul necks. Seems to be true.

[bubkusjones]

That's a general rule of thumb whenever you glue wood. If it's a good joint, the wood itself will fail before the joint does.

[nine]

On a positive note, that looks like as good a break as you can get. The way the strings pull on the headstock won't stress it like it would if it broke the other way (which would've probably broken the headstock completely off).

[Hamm Guitars]

Call the Peg Head in Hamilton (Noted by other's here).

Their Number is:

905-972-9400

Their address is:

214 King Street East, Hamilton, ON L8N 1B5

Mike Spicer is a great guy and he can do as good a job on it as you want.

[GuitarsCanada]

Thanks for the suggestions. As soon as I get some bills paid off I am going to call these people and get it in for a repair. For now, I put it in the case. Will follow-up once I get it done and happy days are back again.

[Hamm Guitars]

The Guitar Clinic is closed. George Furlanetto (Owner of the Guitar Clinic and the F-Bass shop), decided that he wanted to put his focus back into his F-Bass line, and closed the Guitar Clinic. I'm not sure how accurate this is but this is what I've heard/read.

I'm hoping I can get a job there this summer.



One of the techs from the Guitar Clinic opened his own shop "The Peghead".

The Guitar Clinic is gone, allthough the sign is still up. George still runs F-bass out of the same building, but it is not open to the public like the store was.

George's basses are top notch, for anyone who has never heard of them (f-bass) and He is a really great guy to deal with. (http://www.fbass.com/)

Other Guitar Clinic Spin-offs are the Peg Head (Mike Spicer's shop) and Lou's Music (Owned by Lou Furlanetto, George's brother).

[faracaster]

Geez , contrary to other people's experience here. I would take a repair like that to no other place than the 12th Fret. They have done some incredible work for me there that far outdistance the problem you have. Including doing a very similar repair to a 54' Les Paul Custom I had so long ago.
Just my 0.02 cents.

Pete

[rippinglickfest]

As far as repairs go, I've not had good luck at the 12th fret. They put a chip in my headstock with a file while fixing the nut on my PRS and tried to paint it without telling me.
Not to mention there's sort of an elitist attitude among their employees.

Everytime I go in there I feel like:sport-smiley-002:
You know what.....................I called the 12th fret regarding fingerboard cracks and I got the same attitude on the phone.
I'm having second thoughts about dealing with them.

[KHINGPYNN]

Sorry to hear about your GM LP bro... my cousin is a vintage restoration and repair anything kinda guitar magician... unfortunatly he is not close to you. I've seen much worse than that be repaired to an almost un-noticable state. Keep every piece of the break and the right person will do magic... just make sure it's the right person... in other words take your time and get it done right the first time. Good Luck

Craig

[bRian]

There is a guy in Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia who is a master at this type of repair; Zane O'Brien, owner of Legend Guitars. I had a crack repaired in an acoustic, he did a flawless job. He is definitely worth the cost of shipping. He is excellent to deal with. Send him some pics to get a quote for reference if anything else. He comes very highly recommended in my area.

http://www.legendguitars.com/navi.php

[Robert1950]

Guitars Canada Guy - could you please delete this thread. It causes me severe pain/heartache every time I see it. :eek:

[GuitarsCanada]

Just think of the pain it is causing me :eek:

[peter benn]

I've had good experiences with Capsule.

Peter

[cougar2]

Guitars Canada,
How far south do you want to go? I’m in Chatham and this kind of job is no problem. I can make that thing look like the axedent never happened! I get work (repairs) from as far as California to Nova Scotia. If you would like refrences, just let me know.
Dennis

[GuitarsCanada]

Thanks for the offer. Chatham is not out of the question. I drive to Michigan a few times a month for work, can always take a diversion.

[dolphinstreet]

Oh man, what a bummer to drop it! Hope you can get it takencare of without it costing you a fortune.

[cougar2]

Thanks for the offer. Chatham is not out of the question. I drive to Michigan a few times a month for work, can always take a diversion.


If you do not get some one else to do the job and you want me to do it, Email me in advance for directions and to set up a time. Marc Beneteau will vouch for me, I have done some of his repairs also. Thanks,
Dennis

d.kwasnycia@sympatico.ca

[sh333]

One of the techs from the Guitar Clinic opened his own shop "The Peghead".

The fellow's name is Mike Spicer and he is one of the best in the business IMHO. I would def. take it to him.

You can reach the shop at 905-972-9400 T F S 10am-6pm

[mario]

....so this thread is pretty old, but did you ever get that beauty fixed? If yes, let's see some pics.

[davetcan]

Didn't see this before but I had Dennis in Chatham (cougar2) do some work on my Schecter Tradition Strat and I couldn't have been more pleased. My Lester is about due for a refret and I'll definitely be giving him a call. If anyone does pay him a visit ask to see his acoustics, just stunning workmanship. If I recall correctly he has a pretty nice '69 or '70 Cougar :-)

[GuitarsCanada]

....so this thread is pretty old, but did you ever get that beauty fixed? If yes, let's see some pics.

She's still sitting in her case, have not gotten around to getting it fixed. I needto get around to that, I miss playing it.

[zontar]

I can relate to this story.

One winter I was walking outside with my classical (a Taro, it was in the case. I was teaching at the time.) I slipped on a patch of ice hidden under the snow and came down on my butt. My guitar case landed on the lid side. I wasn't hurt, just felt a little silly.
So when I got home, I put my guitar away and forgot about the fall. Teh next day I opened the case, and I had to shut it right away--I couldn't take it. The head stock had been sheared clean off the neck. I felt sick. I opened the case again--loosened the strings and saw the damage. Fortunately though, the break was a fairly clean break and looked easy to repair.
A friend of mine was able to repair it. He also added a nice rosewood veneer to the face of the headstock with some abalone inlays. It still works.

As for the case? I got rid of it, and bought a sturdier one. (Think of the canage if I'd had a gig bag! I seriously am sickened by that thought.)

Hopefully your story also has a happy ending.

[Maxer]

Hmmm... revisiting this thread is very timely for me, unfortunately. I have a Hamer LP doublecut type... gloss black, archtop, set neck, mahogany. Well I don't know how it happened but I see that the neck has two hairline cracks, one on either side of the neck, running diagonally down from the nut. Taking the advice of a fellow guitarist here at work, I loosened off the strings so I could remove the truss rod cover and then slide the nut out of the way... I was hoping they were only finish cracks (they're pretty thin and subtle). Well, surprise surprise. It's cracked in the wood. I'm thinking someone in the house knocked it over (it's been standing in the corner in a gig bag for awhile - stupid me for not properly taking care of it like I usually do). Either that or it had the cracks all along and I simply hadn't been observant enough. I think it's the former but whatever... what's done is done. Total drag!

This was a good Craigslist score and I love playing this guitar. I'd love to fix it if it can be done without costing me big dough. Now to start casting about for trustworthy people and getting estimates.

Or do I just keep playing it until one day it goes kablooie and then I can deal with it? That would be weird.

Anyone know, pipe up please! I ought to take pics of what I'm talking about. Tonight, when I get home.

[zontar]

Too bad my friend got out of fixing guitars, I'd check on that with him.

[1PUTTS]

She's still sitting in her case, have not gotten around to getting it fixed. I needto get around to that, I miss playing it.

If you happen to be in Mississauga, drop by The Guitar World and let Smitty take a look. He was showing me some photos of broken neck & headstock work he's done in the past and it's pretty remarkable what can be fixed.

www.theguitarworld.com

[NB-SK]

It's certainly repairable. The crack is along the wood grain (besides, many guitars are made from pieces of wood glued together (I counted tree blocks of 'mahogany' in my Epi LP). Just make sure you get a good repair person. You wouldn't want the repair to be too obvious.

[NB-SK]

It's certainly repairable. The crack is along the wood grain. It will be solid (besides, many guitars are made from pieces of wood glued together and they seem pretty solid (I counted tree blocks of 'mahogany' in my Epi LP). Just make sure you get a good repair person. You wouldn't want it to be too obvious that it's been repaired.

[Maxer]

Not to detract from our admin's plight, but I'm kind of in the same boat. Here's my sad guitar.

http://idisk.mac.com/maxman23/Public/HurtinHamerWeb2.jpg

Cougar2 has said he will do the repair for me and while he's a good man I'm wondering if there's not a trustworthy soul much closer to my own neck of the woods. I live not far from the 12th Fret and I did just get a good setup for a Washburn acoustic from them... they aren't cheap but so far I've only had good experiences. But I'm simply looking around, hoping to open up my options a bit. I don't mind spending some money to fix this baby, I just want it to involve the least amount of hassle (and driving all over the province). Anyone with suggestions, please chime in... thanks y'all.

[GuitarsCanada]

That side view looks eerily like mine. It's bringing back bad memories, man. I have to get that Heritage fixed up.

[Maxer]

Yeah, well... I'm sure when you're ready you'll do it. And you'll be glad you did it, too. The kind of guitar you really bond with, there's not a lot you wouldn't do to baby it back to health. Within reason, of course. My second-hand Hamer wasn't a huge investment compared to your own guitar, yet I'm still intent on getting it fixed. I hate the thought of leaving it to gather dust in a closet, or cannibalizing it for parts... maybe if it was never a good player that I just couldn't bond with... maybe. But for me, as schmaltzy and sentimental as it sounds, guitars become like family, just like old friends become family. You don't abandon them when they have health issues... you take care of them.

Anyway, I think I have to do this soon and not let it slide. I think I'll get a local estimate, then make a decision. Best of luck to you in getting your Gary Moore fixed up, GC.

[NB-SK]

Not to detract from our admin's plight, but I'm kind of in the same boat. Here's my sad guitar.

http://idisk.mac.com/maxman23/Public/HurtinHamerWeb2.jpg

Cougar2 has said he will do the repair for me and while he's a good man I'm wondering if there's not a trustworthy soul much closer to my own neck of the woods. I live not far from the 12th Fret and I did just get a good setup for a Washburn acoustic from them... they aren't cheap but so far I've only had good experiences. But I'm simply looking around, hoping to open up my options a bit. I don't mind spending some money to fix this baby, I just want it to involve the least amount of hassle (and driving all over the province). Anyone with suggestions, please chime in... thanks y'all.

That can certainly be repaired, too. Like I said, the headstocks on many guitars are made from a different block of wood than the rest of the neck. If those are solid, then I can't see why gluing your neck wouldn't be solid, too. If done properly, two pieces of wood that have been glued and held together in a vise should never come apart.

[Maxer]

Well, that's certainly good to know, thanks! Seems that the concensus so far is quite positive. Maybe I'll take it into the 12th Fret this weekend for an appraisal and an estimate.

[Maxer]

A little update: dropped my Hamer off at the 12th Fret this afternoon. In about 3 weeks it should be ready. Estimated at $125 with a light retouching of the finish - not that I particularly care, it's already battle-scarred. Just glad it's getting taken care of. Guy said it would be a bond better than the wood surrounding it, but also cautioned me that the glue is sensitive to heat... basically said that treat your guitar the way you like to be treated - no sudden shifts in temp or humidity and things should be fairly stable. Thanks to Cougar2 for estimating his own repair for my guitar and no hard feelings - it's just that the 12th is roughly half-way between where I live and where I work, and that puts it ten minutes away either way.