View Full Version : Crude Oil prices !!
PaulS
06-05-2008, 05:39 PM
Watched this video the other night and there are some pretty amazing facts given in it. This guy is a little long winded but what he has to say is scary..
Just who controls the world ???
http://http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en-CA
ne1roc
06-05-2008, 06:17 PM
Just who controls the world ???
http://http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en-CA
I have not had a chance to watch this video, but my guess is the oil companies!
guitarman2
06-05-2008, 06:33 PM
Just who controls the world ???
Even scarier. Who will control the world when we run out?
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
keeperofthegood
06-05-2008, 06:38 PM
Malformed URL:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&hl=en-CA
More than just the oil companies, his claim is that it is a reciprocated action, that foreign nations will not "call the debt due" as long as the US buys their oil. Certainly if the statistics quoted are correct, the USA is out a whole lotta cash :/
Stratin2traynor
06-05-2008, 06:39 PM
Oil companies control the world. Oil prices are high in my opinion due to the paradigm shift and the quest for alternative fuels. They sense that there time in the throne is coming to an end. They are trying to cash in their chips as fast as they can. What can we do about it besides stop consuming oil. Not a whole lot. We are completely dependent and they know it.
PS - haven't been able to watch that video yet.
PaulS
06-05-2008, 06:56 PM
Don't blame the oil companies they didn't start the mess, watch the video. There is no shortage of oil, they just want to paint that picture.
NB-SK
06-05-2008, 07:03 PM
Don't blame the oil companies they didn't start the mess, watch the video. There is no shortage of oil, they just want to paint that picture.
That's the thing, they are coming up with every possible pretext to increase the price of oil nowadays: a typhoon in the Indian ocean, heavy snowfall in Russia...all weather that never affected the price of crude oil until recently.
The law of unintended consequences...the booming price of oil may bring about a reversal of globalization...it will be too expensive to manufacture in the far east and transport to the U.S. for retail sales...maybe we will get back some jobs!
My glass of water is always half-full!!
PaulS
06-05-2008, 07:22 PM
One thing I will say after watching this is you can see the timeline and how things are happening as he is saying. World currency is based on crude oil and has been for a long time. Crude is based on the american dollar, what would happen if there was crude based on the euro. Say goodbye to the american dollar. Thank you Mr. Kissinger.
GuitarsCanada
06-05-2008, 08:45 PM
The law of unintended consequences...the booming price of oil may bring about a reversal of globalization...it will be too expensive to manufacture in the far east and transport to the U.S. for retail sales...maybe we will get back some jobs!
My glass of water is always half-full!!
That is not so far fetched a theory.
That is not so far fetched a theory.
"Things" used to be a lot closer together. For example, every town had a dairy. Most things were made withing one days horse ride of where they were needed. I'm hoping that oil-shock will lead to a return to an effective rail system. That's not good news for truckers. Just-in-time delivery meant that the warehouses of parts manufacturers used to keep on site were converted to warehouses on wheels that drove up to the job site when needed. That kind of delivery is not practical with rail transport.
Hamm Guitars
06-05-2008, 09:43 PM
David Suzuki did a short 2 part series on Cuba, after the fall of the Soviet Empire. Very interesting stuff - they went from a land of dependance to being self suficient and had (legal) exports to boot.
They did it (in a large part) by building farms in town any only using crops that were native to their area.
My job is rather boring, I don't make much money...but I am grateful to have a full-time job, and it is only 3.6 miles from my house...my daily round trip is less than 30 minutes...even with city traffic...a tank of gas lasts me over 3 weeks.
PaulS
06-05-2008, 11:36 PM
Use to be like that for me but then the company closed down. Now my commute is about 1 hour each way. The drive is highway so I can make the best of my cars fuel economy, I drive a neon for commuting. My costs have over doubled in the last couple years.
allthumbs56
06-06-2008, 10:47 AM
The law of unintended consequences...the booming price of oil may bring about a reversal of globalization...it will be too expensive to manufacture in the far east and transport to the U.S. for retail sales...maybe we will get back some jobs!
My glass of water is always half-full!!
You know, it may be that I am just getting old but I really think that a rediscovered sense of community might not be such a bad thing.
Lester B. Flat
06-06-2008, 04:11 PM
Even scarier. Who will control the world when we run out?
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
Thanks for that link, guitarman. What an eye-opener! :eek:
nitehawk55
06-06-2008, 06:11 PM
Might be a good idea to get a good wood stove and start stocking up on fire wood .
devnulljp
06-06-2008, 06:19 PM
One thing I will say after watching this is you can see the timeline and how things are happening as he is saying. World currency is based on crude oil and has been for a long time. Crude is based on the american dollar, what would happen if there was crude based on the euro. Say goodbye to the american dollar. Thank you Mr. Kissinger.You have to watch Robert Mewman's History of Oil...here's a google vid link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4779697496133297566&q=peak+oil+Newman&ei=2LZJSPqODZaYrAPtp6DBDA&hl=en-CA)
He talks about just that. And that's one reason for the whole axis of evil thing...three countries that dared to talk about tying their oil to the euro instead of the US dollar. Iraq did just that and--shock and awe--got invaded...but the empire has overstretched itself, so Iran has just done it too.
Hamm Guitars
06-06-2008, 06:50 PM
http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/51
Robert1950
06-06-2008, 07:59 PM
I haven't had a car for 5 months and 7 days. I pay an extra $.65 a weekday for a bus home from the station. I still buy a Go Train and Metro Pass as before. My daughter still has her truck. I do a heavy goods shopping every two weeks - 4 km on the truck. I've paid $60 for cabs this year to take my 89 year old mother to doctors appointments. I've rented a car once - $61 total. Inconveniences have been minor. No gas, maintenance, license or insurance fees paid. I don't live in the city, but in a town east of Toronto in the GTA. I can walk to several stores and carry two reusable grocery bags home with no problem.
This was a choice, but happenstance. I work in social services. If the economy gets worse, we don't get raises. Services for my clients get harder to find, but they still need case management. I will retire in seven years. I am getting psychologically ready for a harder time.
I can hear the people pushing alternative fuels and electric cars in the early 90s "I told you so!!!!"
NB-SK
06-06-2008, 08:06 PM
You have to watch Robert Mewman's History of Oil...here's a google vid link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4779697496133297566&q=peak+oil+Newman&ei=2LZJSPqODZaYrAPtp6DBDA&hl=en-CA)
He talks about just that. And that's one reason for the whole axis of evil thing...three countries that dared to talk about tying their oil to the euro instead of the US dollar. Iraq did just that and--shock and awe--got invaded...but the empire has overstretched itself, so Iran has just done it too.
North Korea produces oil? It's possible that it has some oil reserves, but it has yet to extract a single drop of it from the ground.
xuthal
06-10-2008, 04:11 AM
What we have to do is stop being so hooked on oil,my friends i have the answer
http://www.zenncars.com/
Their electric cars are not legal in all provinces yet.Heres a petition to "LEGALIZE IT"
http://www.evcanada.org/
Yup yup we have a canadian company making electric cars.Sign that petition and it will be better for all of us.
Heres a youtube video of the vehicles
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c
Its go time people,lets get this legal before the oil companies destroy this car.
laristotle
06-10-2008, 08:35 AM
...my daily round trip is less than 30 minutes...even with city traffic...a tank of gas lasts me over 3 weeks.
I'm lucky on that one too. 34 mins actually. Even
though I have a heavy chevy (caprice), a light foot
takes it far.
Starbuck
06-18-2008, 12:22 PM
Well folks, here's what it's all about: W has done his job... Let destroy the artic tundra....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7460767.stm
NB-SK
06-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Well folks, here's what it's all about: W has done his job... Let destroy the artic tundra....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7460767.stm
Dependance on foreign oil or not, most foreign oil that makes it way to the US is produced by American companies. His argument is a load of nationalistic BS aimed at selling his idea to the public.
Robert1950
06-20-2008, 12:27 PM
To bring this all closer to home on GUITARS Canada - how will this affect the prices of companies like Reverend, Eastwood and Rondo Music???
To bring this all closer to home on GUITARS Canada - how will this affect the prices of companies like Reverend, Eastwood and Rondo Music???
The energy costs to make the instruments, and the transportation costs to get them to North America will change.
The guitars won't get any cheaper.
keeperofthegood
06-20-2008, 02:29 PM
The energy costs to make the instruments, and the transportation costs to get them to North America will change.
The guitars won't get any cheaper.
However, if it comes to local acquisition because distance costs too much, supporting your local luthier can only aid in your communities economy...
However, if it comes to local acquisition because distance costs too much, supporting your local luthier can only aid in your communities economy...
Part of me hopes that's where we're heading. That can only lead to long overdue improvements in public transit.
The downside is our food will become much more seasonal. Fresh produce in winter will be stupid expensive, and local produce much more limited in the off-season.
Jeff Flowerday
06-20-2008, 03:19 PM
http://guitarscanada.com/Board/picture.php?albumid=35&pictureid=91
I think this says it all.
What we have to do is stop being so hooked on oil,my friends i have the answer
http://www.zenncars.com/
Their electric cars are not legal in all provinces yet.Heres a petition to "LEGALIZE IT"
http://www.evcanada.org/
Yup yup we have a canadian company making electric cars.Sign that petition and it will be better for all of us.
Heres a youtube video of the vehicles
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c
Its go time people,lets get this legal before the oil companies destroy this car.
I would get that Zenn car in a hearthbeat, but at a top speed of 40km it's not realistic, even for a city car. with the way to get around the city and all using highway and main roads in the city where the limit is 60kmh, i'de get booed out of the street in a second..:)..get them to 100km, and they wont be able to fill their quota.
i'de be curious how much it would cost in electricity to charge it doh. Electricity is getting VERY expensive as well in Quebec, price have gone up 20% in last 4 years. if it cost 10$ of electricity every night to charge it, might not be more cost effective then a regular car
xuthal
06-21-2008, 04:25 AM
I think its like 8 cents over 8 hours,which is all you need to fully charge it.Check out the youtube link.last time i checked with customer service they were making a highway model set to be released next year
What we have to do is stop being so hooked on oil,my friends i have the answer
http://www.zenncars.com/
Their electric cars are not legal in all provinces yet.Heres a petition to "LEGALIZE IT"
http://www.evcanada.org/
Yup yup we have a canadian company making electric cars.Sign that petition and it will be better for all of us.
Heres a youtube video of the vehicles
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c
Its go time people,lets get this legal before the oil companies destroy this car.
Only part of the blame rests on big oil, IMO. We have the smarts and the means but absolutely ZERO political will to solve our own problems.
Robert1950
06-21-2008, 07:14 AM
Yes. The prices are crude, aren't they.
(ducks and runs)
keeperofthegood
06-21-2008, 09:02 AM
Yes. The prices are crude, aren't they.
(ducks and runs)
Defiantly, it's a greasy situation....
(runs with ducks)
Robert1950
07-07-2008, 08:50 PM
Dealing with high oil prices - internal conflict:
http://www.comics.com/wash/opus/archive/images/opus2008062174669.jpg
Dealing with high oil prices - internal resolution:
http://www.comics.com/wash/opus/archive/images/opus2008070149716.jpg
smorgdonkey
07-07-2008, 09:53 PM
I would get that Zenn car in a hearthbeat, but at a top speed of 40km it's not realistic, even for a city car. with the way to get around the city and all using highway and main roads in the city where the limit is 60kmh, i'de get booed out of the street in a second..:)..get them to 100km, and they wont be able to fill their quota.
They can go faster than that...it's just that the Canadian Government restricted their speed to 40 km/h. That's what broke the camel's back and got the Canadian company sold to a company from India. It seems that government here in Canada still holds hands under the covers with the petroleum industry.
They should be helping in every way to get Canada and Canadian companies to be leaders in alternative fuels/greener energy and just SELL all of the petroleum to other countries. That way they'd make a mint and the whole country would be better positioned for the future.
Wild Bill
07-08-2008, 10:15 AM
They can go faster than that...it's just that the Canadian Government restricted their speed to 40 km/h. That's what broke the camel's back and got the Canadian company sold to a company from India. It seems that government here in Canada still holds hands under the covers with the petroleum industry.
They should be helping in every way to get Canada and Canadian companies to be leaders in alternative fuels/greener energy and just SELL all of the petroleum to other countries. That way they'd make a mint and the whole country would be better positioned for the future.
You know, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy. It's more likely to just be stupidity!
We Canadians are so hung up on red tape that when something comes along that doesn't quite fit the existing rules our bureaucrats find it easier to just ban it!
The sad thing is that we keep letting them get away with it!
People seem to have forgotten that one of the major planks of the Mike Harris Ontario government was to attack government red tape. That never gets mentioned today. Sometimes I wonder if that idea is the real reason so many government workers and leftwing-big government-nanny state folks hate his very name.
:food-smiley-004:
faracaster
07-08-2008, 04:52 PM
You know, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy. It's more likely to just be stupidity!
The sad thing is that we keep letting them get away with it!
People seem to have forgotten that one of the major planks of the Mike Harris Ontario government was to attack government red tape. That never gets mentioned today. Sometimes I wonder if that idea is the real reason so many government workers and leftwing-big government-nanny state folks hate his very name.
:food-smiley-004:
DERAIL !!!!!
Lets talk about what is the issue today and not what some long dead government did for the "benefit" of Ontarians.
I don't think you would want to open that can of fish.
I don't think it is a conspiracy by definition either. It is right out in the open. All the current and past provincial and federal Governments are supporting oil companies and anything they want. What's the surprise ???? A politician by my definition is someone who is in the highest bidders pocket. If they aren't, they wouldn't be in office.
Not the first time a small smart company with a good idea has gone down because of "goverment" regulations.
BTW.....Gas is "only" $1.22 in Cobourg while it is $1.39. in Toronto
Cheers
Pete
NB-SK
07-08-2008, 08:22 PM
They can go faster than that...it's just that the Canadian Government restricted their speed to 40 km/h. That's what broke the camel's back and got the Canadian company sold to a company from India. It seems that government here in Canada still holds hands under the covers with the petroleum industry.
They should be helping in every way to get Canada and Canadian companies to be leaders in alternative fuels/greener energy and just SELL all of the petroleum to other countries. That way they'd make a mint and the whole country would be better positioned for the future.
Yeah, the new cutting-edge electric engines are very fast and increasingly affordable. Based on the number of SUVs and sports cars on the road, I think many Canadians can afford these:
http://www.zapworld.com/electric-vehicles/electric-cars/zap-alias
http://www.think.no/think/content/view/full/290
The Canadian media is in on smearing electric cars, too. I saw one reporter on Quebec TV comparing electric cars to "golf carts". He even went as far as too claim that faster cars aren't affordable, "novelty items for collectors", and proceeded to trash the movie 'Who Killed the Electric Car' as propaganda.
PS. Speaking of energy efficient products, have a look at underfloor carbon heating film. Install solar panels on the roof of your house and you're set.
NB-SK
07-08-2008, 08:37 PM
You know, it doesn't have to be a conspiracy. It's more likely to just be stupidity!
We Canadians are so hung up on red tape that when something comes along that doesn't quite fit the existing rules our bureaucrats find it easier to just ban it!
The sad thing is that we keep letting them get away with it!
People seem to have forgotten that one of the major planks of the Mike Harris Ontario government was to attack government red tape. That never gets mentioned today. Sometimes I wonder if that idea is the real reason so many government workers and leftwing-big government-nanny state folks hate his very name.
:food-smiley-004:
So, Harper isn't an oil man?
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