Wall hangers for guitars

[DeleriumTrigger]

Another noob question.

Is it a bad idea to store your guitar hanging on the wall from one of these hangers? Will it hurt the neck at all for it to be hanging on this for an extended period of time?

http://www.quiklok.com/catalog/files/GS403.jpg

[suttree]

no, it won't hurt the guitar at all. BUT. beware the surgical tubing covered wall hangers, as they "outgas" and will damage certain finishes (nitrocellulose for sure)... if you have a finer/older guitar and the surgical tubing, you can cover it with leather to help.. the black foam like the picture is fine for all instruments.

[Paul]

... the black foam like the picture is fine for all instruments.

I have heard that the conversion varnish finish on Rickenbacker instruments does react badly with some foams........I have not yet experienced that myself.

YMMV

[Mooh]

Won't hurt your instruments...if it did, every music store would have quality control and repair issues due to it. Some don't suit asymmetrical headstocks like most Fenders, others will turn to accomodate them easily.

I make my own using 2 pieces of 1" dowel and a wall plate. Hardwoods, usually maple because that's what I usually have on hand. The dowels are mortised into the plate, glued and screwed from behind (keep your minds out of the gutter thanks). The dowels are wrapped with leather to protect guitar finishes, though I will used pipe insulation/wrap if a hanger has to accomodate a smaller neck like a mandolin. Usually finished with urethane. Attached to wall with a screw into a stud (again, watch the gutter).

Have made dozens and sold many to friends and students, besides the ones in my studio.

Leather has always been fine.

Sure beats taking them in and out of cases all the time.

Peace, Mooh.

[DeleriumTrigger]

Thanks again for the good info guys! :rockon:

[RIFF WRATH]

Mooh....what's the angle of the dangle...or do your dowels go horizontal???
Gerry

[Mooh]

Riff Wrath...Usually horizontal, as I fail to see how a guitar will ever fall with about two inches of dowel past the headstock. I have made a few with a slight angle, not more than 5 degrees, but haven't found it was worth the extra manufacturing step. The leather covering is glued in place, and the friction between leather and instrument, with the help of gravity is all that's needed.

Peace, Mooh.

[Tarbender]

I use a different kind of wall hanger:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/2486936130_762bca3136.jpg

Almost invisable and there is no presure on the neck.

[RIFF WRATH]

those invisable ones are neat, but I can't see them...lol......I have a metal & foam 3 place guitar stand, and a pvc 6 space guitar stand that work well....I have a couple of L&M's single wall hangers but they're like $15 a pop.
I went into the local hardware to look at types of tool hangers but not much of a selection...all I know is approx. 3" centers on the "dowels" to allow for some type of covering and approx 3" in length from the backing plate.

[Tarbender]

They're actually held up by the strap buttons, so from the front you can't see the bracket.

[zontar]

no, it won't hurt the guitar at all. BUT. beware the surgical tubing covered wall hangers, as they "outgas" and will damage certain finishes (nitrocellulose for sure)... if you have a finer/older guitar and the surgical tubing, you can cover it with leather to help.. the black foam like the picture is fine for all instruments.

I'm looking into leather or something for my stands. They came with the tubing, but while it hasn't damaged any of my guitars-(I don't leave them on the stands for long)-The tubing is cracked and falling apart--I read somewhere that plumbers' tubing works well--but the only problem with that is the only plumbers' tubing I can find is made of vinyl--and I've heard horrible things about vinyl & guitar finishes.

Anybody hear anything else?

[RIFF WRATH]

my stands, from L&M, have this orange coloured tubing, and i have one that has yellow tubing.....they have got a powdery white coating on them that wipes off with a damp rag....can't be a good thing....I have removed the tubing one one so far and have replaced it with clear see through medical tubing.........seems to be a better material.....haven't had a finish problem yet, but I'm sure that all my finishes are poly

[suttree]

Won't hurt your instruments...if it did, every music store would have quality control and repair issues due to it.

actually, go looking through the acoustic section of most bigger stores (L&M's notoriously won't listen on this topic), and you'll find plenty of nice guitars with finish damage at the neck where they've been hung.

[Mooh]

The finish damage has little to do with the guitar's weight hanging from the head though, and more to do with interaction between the hanger's surface and the guitar finish...or simply the fact that some folks can't take or return a guitar from such hangers without carelessness. My opinion obviously, your milage may vary.

Stores that hang their guitars so far out of reach deserve what they get...the Stratford L&M is no exception...regardless of the fact that they are cramming so much into so little space. I'm sure they don't care anyway.

Peace, Mooh.

[notjoeaverage]

Never let leather contact a guitar finish for any length of time . Chemicals used in curing and dying will damage a guitars finish over time. If you have a leather strap or strap ends do not store your strap in the case in contact with the guitar. Always wipe it down after playing.

If you hang or display your guitar do not put it on an exterior wall - heat and humidity issues. Nor should you place it where it will be in direct sunlight, UV rays destroy fine instruments.

The safest place is in the case.

or

A dedicated windowless room in the interior of the house. Studio/display room.

[WarrenG]

I've been hanging mine with shellac and nitrocellulose lacquer finishes for years and I haven't noticed any problems. I use the Hercules wall mounts.

http://www.herculesstands.com/Images/guitar/GSP38WBMain.gif

[Mooh]

Never let leather contact a guitar finish for any length of time . Chemicals used in curing and dying will damage a guitars finish over time. If you have a leather strap or strap ends do not store your strap in the case in contact with the guitar. Always wipe it down after playing.

If you hang or display your guitar do not put it on an exterior wall - heat and humidity issues. Nor should you place it where it will be in direct sunlight, UV rays destroy fine instruments.

The safest place is in the case.

or

A dedicated windowless room in the interior of the house. Studio/display room.

Interesting. I've never had trouble with leather, though I've seen vinyl lift finish like crazy. Most of my homemade wall hangers have leather wrapping on them to protect the guitar finish from direct contact with the hardwood and poly finishes I use on the hangers. No problems with House, Beneteau, Gibson, Fender, Godin, Epiphone, Cox, Moon, OLP, Washburn, and Warwick finishes yet. I also leave leather straps hanging against the backs of guitars as they hang without issues.

Guess I've been lucky.

I agree with keeping them in the dark, away from direct heat and cold, though most of mine get moved around too much to worry much about it.

Peace, Mooh.

[notjoeaverage]

Mooh

I can't remember where I came across the leather thing and/or I may be confusing it with plastic and vinyl/naugahyde(sp?).

Here is one of the better links for care tips and questions, all kinds of other good info on this site

http://www.guitartips.addr.com/guitar_care_preservation_tips.html

[nitehawk55]

My wife does leather tooling ( plus we have horses , saddles and tack ) so there are always scrap pieces of leather to be found to put on the hangers . I have used it for years with no problems . I won't use a finished leather BTW , just the raw stuff .

[Paul]

I use a different kind of wall hanger:

Almost invisable and there is no presure on the neck.

I disagree. The weight of the neck is creating a twisting motion in the neck pocket. It doesn't matter how your stand or hanger works, there will always be some pressure on the neck.

I hang 'em by the headstock. It keeps them off of the floor, and easy at hand.