Under $1000 continued

[konasexone]

Here's a nice write up in case you haven't seen it yet.


http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/media/reviews/solibodyroundp.pdf

[biggreen]

Cool, except those guitar are all models under $500 from what I can see. The biggest difference in bang for the buck is in the $500-$1000 range IMO. Was there an article for that range?

[konasexone]

Actually in Canadian dollars they crawl over the $500 mark if not by mere inflation alone. The article is from 2007 and prices have risen to place most over $500. Where I live, Sudbury, Ontario, our dealers always overprice their goods. For instance, the PRS soapbar sells for over $700 because the dealer figures he can get away with it and often does. I buy everything 5 hours away in Toronto or Montreal or E-bay. You should see the shacks some of these little Sudbury business men live in:eek:, go figure.

[Apostrophe (')]

Here's a nice write up in case you haven't seen it yet.


http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/media/reviews/solibodyroundp.pdf

Online forums constantly debate the value, playability, workmanship, and tones of affordable models from numerous makers, and there’s an almost Crusades-like fervor in discovering new guitars that deliver maximum delight for minimum dollars. And, as many a forum member has learned, bashing the fave $300 guitar of a posse of acolytes can unleash a tsunami of online flames. You just don’t mess with someone’s beloved “big value” guitar.

Ain't that the truth! :smile:

Popular guitars:

Epi SG - 4.5/5
Mexi-Strat - 4.5/5
Squire Tele - 3/5

The Godin = 5/5 :smilie_flagge17:

[Maxer]

Actually in Canadian dollars they crawl over the $500 mark if not by mere inflation alone. The article is from 2007 and prices have risen to place most over $500. Where I live, Sudbury, Ontario, our dealers always overprice their goods. For instance, the PRS soapbar sells for over $700 because the dealer figures he can get away with it and often does. I buy everything 5 hours away in Toronto or Montreal or E-bay. You should see the shacks some of these little Sudbury business men live in:eek:, go figure.

Konasexone, I'm guessing big dealers get significant breaks on bulk ordering, leaving the smaller/more indie guitar shops to pay more for unit. Factor in stuff like shipping of guitar products to places like Sudbury, the Soo and T-Bay and that also at least partially explains why the cost per unit of bricks and mortar guitar shops in those burgs is higher. The price of gas being what it is, this is only going to worsen as the shipping distances increase. Same reason why some foodstuffs, like dairy for example, tend to be dearer the further north you go.

Not saying these cats are on the up and up, but they do have to cover their margins. The fact that more and more people buy their instruments like you is the reason why the smaller bricks and mortar guys are being slowly but surely edged out and even the bigger chain players are being outmaneuvered.

[konasexone]

Hey I was a huge Frank fan when The Wall made its debut. No one understood me. Anywho... I own a bit of everything. Godins never quite did it for me but that's me. I just got into Reverends and I'm buying a few more before someone figures them out and they become overpriced. I've tried the PRS SE 's and I again , not for me but that depends on ones hands and what one expect a quality axe to feel like. What amazes me is the quality of workmanship coming from the Pacific rim and how quickly they've come along.

[konasexone]

Konasexone, I'm guessing big dealers get significant breaks on bulk ordering, leaving the smaller/more indie guitar shops to pay more for unit. Factor in stuff like shipping of guitar products to places like Sudbury, the Soo and T-Bay and that also at least partially explains why the cost per unit of bricks and mortar guitar shops in those burgs is higher. The price of gas being what it is, this is only going to worsen as the shipping distances increase. Same reason why some foodstuffs, like dairy for example, tend to be dearer the further north you go.

Not saying these cats are on the up and up, but they do have to cover their margins. The fact that more and more people buy their instruments like you is the reason why the smaller bricks and mortar guys are being slowly but surely edged out and even the bigger chain players are being outmaneuvered.

Not in Sudbury. I know most of them personally and they're covering a lot more than costs. They picked up their buildings for dirt cheap (this isn't T.O.)
and price their goods based on the average ValeInco or Xstrada worker who's to much of a bigshot to shop for better prices out of town. Everytime we have a strike the bargains appear. Next spring is our next Sudbury bargains window.

[Maxer]

Good point about commercial rents up there... hadn't thought about that.

Well, they want to charge crazy dough, it's their right... like it's their right to price themselves straight out of business.

[rhh7]

With the internet, and ebay, the good ole days for small retailers are gone...like the dinosaurs, the tail may still be twitching, but they are well nigh extinct!

You are going to need innovation, imagination, service...something that sets your guitars apart...otherwise, they are simply another commodity, and you are competing against the Wal-Marts of the music business...

[Maxer]

This is really part of a larger trend where, in so many areas of commerce, the middleman is being kicked to the curb. On a scale never before matched, consumers are using the net to research their options and carefully, shrewdly leverage their purchasing dollars. People who make their living selling consumer goods, whether they be cars or guitars, are finding themselves being forced to shave their margins down to brutally minimal levels... just to stay in the game.

Sometimes that means a negative thing to the end buyer... service, for one thing, can take a hit. That's one thing a great bricks and mortar place can offer - quality and consistency of service. If you simply can't meet that fairly demanding level of customer responsiveness, you're probably already on your way out of business and don't even quite realize it yet.

[biggreen]

Actually in Canadian dollars they crawl over the $500 mark if not by mere inflation alone. The article is from 2007 and prices have risen to place most over $500. Where I live, Sudbury, Ontario, our dealers always overprice their goods. For instance, the PRS soapbar sells for over $700 because the dealer figures he can get away with it and often does. I buy everything 5 hours away in Toronto or Montreal or E-bay. You should see the shacks some of these little Sudbury business men live in:eek:, go figure.


In canadian dollars? You mean .994 USD? This isn;t ten years ago? lol. Either way, they are also MSRP prices. I can buy every guitar on that list from L&M and/or Tom Lee for well under $500 with tax. I can even get a lot of things for cheaper than popular American online pricing.

For instance, I was shopping around for a new wah tonight and I checked out a couple, these where non sale sticker prices:
Dunlop slash crybaby : MSRP $298 USD. American Musicians friend price= $169. USD, Long And Mcquade = $165 CAD.

Crybaby Classic: MSRP $210, Musicians friend = $99 USD, L&M = $93. CAD

I am pretty sure L&M prices there stuff Canada wide, though I amy be wrong. I feel sorry for your pricing situations there, I don't even live in a big city.

[Apostrophe (')]

I just got into Reverends and I'm buying a few more before someone figures them out and they become overpriced.

Looks like it's already happened:

Volcano price in the GP article = $499
Volcano price on their site = $699

[dr_iggi]

Popular guitars:

Epi SG - 4.5/5
Mexi-Strat - 4.5/5
Squire Tele - 3/5

The Godin = 5/5 :smilie_flagge17:

Godins offer for sure outstanding value for the money.

[konasexone]

The site shows suggested retail but actual prices are lower . Most models run around the $560 mark. Take a look at e-bay at the new ones.

[Jampy]

SCHECTER Lady Luck, look mighty fine :bow:

[warwick_man]

theres lots out there it all depends on what type, style, and look your going for. if you like metal get a b.c rich theres lots to choose from and there nicely priced. jazz (i have no idea) blues or metal go for the ibanez szr720.