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Undyne
03-27-2008, 03:04 PM
I wasn't entirely sure if this should go in the gear section, or the theory section. So if you think it should be moved then by all means.

I should point out that I don't know very much about guitars and I know even less about audio electronics. I'm just a kid who's trying his hardest to learn to play guitar because I've always been in love with guitars.

Anyway, I had an idea for a guitar pedal but I'm not sure if it's just some lame idea that doesn't really have a use or if it's a great idea that already exists in some form. So I submit this for your approval.

It's my understanding that an equalizer works by limiting certain frequency ranges so that you can have your highs, lows, and mids be louder or softer than the others in any combination you wish. It's also my undertstanding that individual notes are made at set frequencies (eg. A4 = 440Hz).

So I was wondering what if you had a pedal that could completely cut off certain notes depending on what you had it's dial set to. You could set it to only allow the C major pentatonic scale and it would only allow notes from that scale to be heard. Then when you played your scales you would be a lot more aware of when you mess up. I think (for myself anyway) that this could be a very useful method of learning scales. It also might prevent people like me from doodling around instead of practicing their scales (or at least keep them doodling in the correct scale) :)

I don't really know much about guitar theory and technique so perhaps this idea could also be used to help teach other important things.

This may just be a foolish idea but I don't know if anything like this exists already so I figured I post it and see what you guys had to say about it. Also I'm not sure if I explained it as well as I should have, if what I said didn't make a lot of sense let me know and I'll try to a better job of explaining.

Paul
03-27-2008, 03:18 PM
I wasn't entirely sure if this should go in the gear section, or the theory section. So if you think it should be moved then by all means.

I should point out that I don't know very much about guitars and I know even less about audio electronics. I'm just a kid who's trying his hardest to learn to play guitar because I've always been in love with guitars.

Anyway, I had an idea for a guitar pedal but I'm not sure if it's just some lame idea that doesn't really have a use or if it's a great idea that already exists in some form. So I submit this for your approval.

It's my understanding that an equalizer works by limiting certain frequency ranges so that you can have your highs, lows, and mids be louder or softer than the others in any combination you wish. It's also my undertstanding that individual notes are made at set frequencies (eg. A4 = 440Hz).

So I was wondering what if you had a pedal that could completely cut off certain notes depending on what you had it's dial set to. You could set it to only allow the C major pentatonic scale and it would only allow notes from that scale to be heard. Then when you played your scales you would be a lot more aware of when you mess up. I think (for myself anyway) that this could be a very useful method of learning scales. It also might prevent people like me from doodling around instead of practicing their scales (or at least keep them doodling in the correct scale) :)

I don't really know much about guitar theory and technique so perhaps this idea could also be used to help teach other important things.

This may just be a foolish idea but I don't know if anything like this exists already so I figured I post it and see what you guys had to say about it. Also I'm not sure if I explained it as well as I should have, if what I said didn't make a lot of sense let me know and I'll try to a better job of explaining.

That would be a challenge in that notes are not pure tones. There is a harmonic series generated, (the overtones you hear so much about), that while part of the original note, may not necessarily be part of the scale.

The largest typically available graphic eq is 31 band, from lowest note to highest. There are 88 notes on a piano, (91 if you are Oscar Peterson Bosendorfer.)

There are tons of play-along resources out there that demonstrate the sound of the scale or chord you are working on, give you an opportunity to play along with, and then leave a hole for you to play by yourself. In the jazz world the Jamey Aebersold series is the most substantial. (www.jajazz.com (http://www.jajazz.com)).

mhammer
03-28-2008, 10:56 AM
You could make such a pedal, but it would have to be digital. No way around it.

Wheeman
03-28-2008, 04:24 PM
You could make such a pedal, but it would have to be digital. No way around it.

I would have to say the same thing with an added Good luck!

It might be easier to play with a synth genorated chord for the scale. If the played note is off you should be able to hear the dissonance of the note (or the beats (for the physics term).

Greg Ellis
03-28-2008, 04:35 PM
I thought someone was working on a new game that's sort of like Guitar Hero, but takes in a standard guitar signal and analyzes it to see if you're playing the right notes or not.

That's a learning tool all by itelf.

Maybe I was dreaming...