reverb pedal

[bezack]

hi

I'm looking for a reverb pedal because i find that my amp(Randall rg50tc) hasn't have enough. I'm more into melodic metal and i want a pedal that has alot of reverb. my friend has a marshall 100w combo that keeps sustaining for like 2-3seconds after he plays and i find it sounds really good. Do any of you know a pedal that has this much reverb?

thanks

Roger

[adamthemute]

I would try out a Boss RV-3 if you can. It has very long reverb and also has delay. They can usually be had for $100 or so used.

More info here: http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/rv3.xml

Only downside is that there is a small signal loss when the pedal is engaged, but some other Boss pedals do this too. My RV-3 is pretty much on all the time so it doesn't bother me.

[mhammer]

If it's spring reverb in your friend's Marshall, then it is possible to achieve the same thing in your Randall.

The quality and "sustain" (decay time, actually) of reverb will be a function of the actual physical length of the springs (longer springs take a longer time to stop shaking after you bump them) and the drive of the signal feeding the springs. If you are familiar with the old 3-knob Fender reverb units, they had a control on them labelled "Dwell". The control is simply the reverb equivalent of a gain control, such that turning up the gain of the signal pushing the springs makes them wiggle for a longer time.

In principle (and I would need to see the specs and schematic of the Randall to confirm it), a) you might be able to replace the existing reverb pan with one that is an electronic match but with longer springs, and b) you might be able to increase the gain of your reverb drive circuit a bit to provoke longer "dwell" time from whatever springs you have or replace them with.

The bigger question is whether the sound you want should be pursued via a pedal or via the internal spring reverb. My own feeling is yu want the second one rather than the first. Why? Well, if you love your friend's Marshall, then I gather you are going after high-gain amp distortion. If you were feeding a clean signal into the reverb pedal and ran the amp clean, then it wouldn't be a problem. Trouble is, the quality of the distortion signal is a function of the input signal. Feeding a reverbed signal to the amp's input and then clipping it is likely to result in an output with a distortion tone that is not pleasing, and a reverb sound that is even less pleasing. The ideal is to feed the amp whatever signal you normally feed it, let the amp clip away, and then allow that signal to reverberate such that it sounds like it is in a big cavernous space.

Again, this is not to take away from the pleasing sound that a great many people are able to get with the RV-3 or any other commercial pedal that is suggested. My sense, however, is that you would like the amp's tone to have a little "space" to it, and are not looking to create a tone from pedals and simply let the amp make it louder.

You can find out more about reverb spring options here: http://www.accutronicsreverb.com/

[sense_of_henry]

Holy Grail in the big box. IMHO, best reverb pedal. Some people prefer the verbzilla, and if you have lots of money you can look at Dr. Scientist or some other boutique reverbs but for the money, Holy Grail is great. You could find a used one for $50 probably.

[Ti-Ron]

+1 for the Holy Grail! I have one and I really love it!

[zdogma]

Feeding a reverbed signal to the amp's input and then clipping it is likely to result in an output with a distortion tone that is not pleasing, and a reverb sound that is even less pleasing. The ideal is to feed the amp whatever signal you normally feed it, let the amp clip away, and then allow that signal to reverberate such that it sounds like it is in a big cavernous space.




The man tells the truth. Unless you're getting your distortion from a pedal as well, placed before the reverb pedal, its going to sound like mush.

Distorted reverb sounds awful.

[Budda]

hi

I'm looking for a reverb pedal because i find that my amp(Randall rg50tc) hasn't have enough. I'm more into melodic metal and i want a pedal that has alot of reverb. my friend has a marshall 100w combo that keeps sustaining for like 2-3seconds after he plays and i find it sounds really good. Do any of you know a pedal that has this much reverb?

thanks

Roger

reverb isnt used much in melodic metal, dude..

when you say "it sustains longer", is that because of the actual reverb unit in the amp, or the guitar he's using...??

[a Pack of Wolves]

a boss or a digitech

lots of new younger metal cats use digitech stuff

i use a digiverb and fer the price (around $100) you can't go wrong

somehow i found the digitech one more musical than the boss one,
although it's unprovable and most go fer the boss

[elegend]

just got the holy grail plus...sounds nice and natural..would definetly recommend it

[a Pack of Wolves]

also i use a holy grail the old one with one big knob on it
great pedal for around $80

not alot of settings but 2 of the 3 sounds are good

[mhammer]

The Holy Stain pedal, also from EHX, seems to pack reverb and several other things into a decent package for a decent price. Given that the Cirrus 4811 used for the Holy Grail can do a lot of tricks if you just program them in, it wouldn't surprise me that the Holy Grail and Holy Stain use the same basic DSP engine. I've seen these for under $100.

[mhammer]

Tried out the Behringer clone of the Line 6 Verbzilla this afternoon. The store where I tried it out was selling it for $80+tax. Plastic case aside, I was impressed. Sounded good, with little discernible noise. I suppose one can add that one to the list as well. Comes with dual ins and outs, like the Verbzilla.