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RIFF WRATH
02-28-2008, 01:52 PM
anyone know the best mod for V & T in the control section.this is in reference to treble bleed/loss when volume turned down. I have found 3 different ones and now am confused as all get out. should have asked here first. google can be a nasty thing...lol
what works for you???
cheers
RIFF

peter benn
02-28-2008, 03:29 PM
Riff, there is a current thread on this on TDPRI. If I can find it I'll post the link.

peter benn
02-28-2008, 03:32 PM
And here is the one ringing the bell:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/94402-opinions-%2250s-mod-%22.html?highlight=tele+wiring

and here is a broader search:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1206777

Hope this helps,

Peter

RIFF WRATH
02-28-2008, 03:43 PM
Peter
I'm thanking you for the links even before I check them out, seeing as you your post is very recent.
cheers
RIFF

fraser
02-29-2008, 08:10 PM
i do this one, gleaned from tdpri-
you just swap the position of 1 wire, to this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/fraserkaro/teletonewiringmod.jpg
makes the tone control more effective, and is very simple. you just change the red wire from wherever it is, to this

PaulS
03-02-2008, 10:00 AM
Tried this mod last night, played my tele for a while using the tone control a lot to check out the sound as is. Then I did the mod and put it to the test. After a bit of playing I am going to say that the mod is suttle but a nicer touch than the stock method. Tele owners if you got the time and skills try this one.

fraser
03-02-2008, 07:30 PM
Tried this mod last night, played my tele for a while using the tone control a lot to check out the sound as is. Then I did the mod and put it to the test. After a bit of playing I am going to say that the mod is suttle but a nicer touch than the stock method. Tele owners if you got the time and skills try this one.

yup its so simple and quick that its worth the effort. i played my tele for a couple days, then went in and changed the tone cap to a .022 orange drop, and switched that wire as in the diagram. loved the way it sounded since, and probably will leave it that way for good.

RIFF WRATH
03-03-2008, 01:24 PM
yea, that's the one I'm going with as well because it is still a simple mod and I think fender does that on the newer standards.

there is another one where you, if i understood it right, you add another value second cap and a resister.....way too complicated for me...besides, I'm goint to flip the switch to the bottom of the control panel...and for a guy with my talents it will take a while to get that into my thick head...lol

again thanks everyone for the input. this site ROCKS
cheers
RIFF

jimmy peters
03-03-2008, 01:53 PM
if you go to the HOME section on this site the wiring diagrams are excellent.

mhammer
03-03-2008, 04:06 PM
A bit late to join this thread, but here's one of my favourite Tele mods.

Get yourself a 1M linear pot and replace the Tone control. The wiper (middle lug) of the new Tone pot goes to the input lug of the Volume pot. One of the outside lugs of the new tone pot has a .0047uf cap soldered between it and ground (normally the pot chassis), and the other has a .02uf-.022uf cap soldered between it and the chassis.

This provides "bidirectional" tone adjustment. The middle position of the pot is no treble cut. Going in one direction (towards the larger value pot) provides traditional muting, while going in the other direction provides a gentler "rounding" of the tone that leaves the fundamental intact for most, if not all, notes.

The other thing this mod does is squish the full range of tonal adjustments in either direction to half the rotation, making it superbly suited to "pinky-wah", produced by rotated your tone control with your pinky as you play. If you've ever heard Danny Gatton do it, you'll want to do it too, and this makes it possible for mere mortals to do.

The only down side is getting used to the midpoint of the tone control being the "off" position. The traditional knurled knob on the Tele can make this difficult to see/do.

Recommended. Greatly expands the range of tonal possibilities.

Wheeman
03-03-2008, 05:40 PM
^^^ I might just have to try that mod on my Les Paul. I've just recently gutted it and replaced the electronics. Its still not where I want it just yet, so next time I have it open I'll give that a try.

mhammer
03-03-2008, 09:16 PM
If you're up for some left-of-center rewiring, consider trying a couple of things.

1) The standard of using the same tone cap value for the bridge and neck pickup since the dawn of time makes absolutely NO sense. I can understand the desire to render the neck pickup muted sounding, but when was the last time you switched to your bridge pickup for a warm mute tone? Consequently, if I ruled the world, bridge pickups with individual tone pots would have a tone cap approximately 1/3 the value of the neck PU such that they "rounded off" the tone, rather than muting it.

2) The Peavey T-60 tone control was and remains brilliant. It essentially pans between a single-coil of a dual-coil bucker and both coils. Check it out: http://www.peaveyt60.com/mods&hotrodding.htm

3) The compensated volume pot that Fender has used for years is wonderful. If one increases the value of the cap used, the high-end compensation introduced as you turn down the volume is extended to the mids as well, and the volume pot turns into a sort of bass-cut control. Try a value of .0033uf-.0047uf for a 500k volume pot.

If a person used a normal volume pot and T-60 tone control for the neck pickup, and a bi-directional tone control (as described in my earlier post) in conjunction with an "overcompensated" volume pot for the bridge. There would be just a s***load of tonal variability available from thin to thick, with the normal 4 pots and no routing required.